Why don't gold based cable fans try Synergistic


I am looking to try new cables and have been reading the archives in cable forums on all the great cable recommendations. I'm trying to get a handle on how the Synergistic Tesla range that I once owned compare to the gold based cable offerings.

However for some strange reason hardly any of the members here who seem to have tried the various gold based faves (Gabriel Gold, Jade, KCI, Purist and others) have not been tempted to try the popular Synergistic cables and not much here in the way of comparisons. I am not sure why but there seems to be two camps.

Anyways hoping to get a comparison as I had the Tesla Accelerators in my system for a short while and wonder if the gold based cables have the same naturalness, depth of soundstage, air and separation of the Teslas. I should add that as good as the Accelerators were sound wise I did not like the idea of introducing more electricity into my system with the active shielding hence looking for comparable alternatives.
frankk
The bottom line is if you can A/B/C it with statisticaly reproduced results...then it's true. The nice thing about doing this is that you can prove ONLY to yourself (you can lead a horse to water...but) that there is no subconcsious bias involved in trying out new cables. I have tried many different cable designs, in this A/B/C fashion, and only one cable has uniquely presented itself with a profound, consistent signature. These are in my system presently. All 32 pairs (8 XLR, 4 RCA, 4 XLR-RCA). Altogether, they cost me less than the cost of one of my components.
Hi Vandermeulen. I don't doubt your findings, but would like to make some observations about blind testing. Again this is only my opinion so please don't roast me for it.

The sound that arrives at our ear, is not the same as the sound our brain perceives, but not all of that difference is just psychological. Some of the difference is due to the processing that our brain does, to make sense of what it hears. In most acoustical environments the ear is bombarded by many reflections of any sound, and yet the brain often perceives the sound as a single arrival. The brain decides what to hear and what not to hear. The brain also decodes the direction and distance of the sound, and imagines the thing that is making the sound. The human ear/brain seems very highly adept at this work.

Many non-audiophiles can't relate to our hobby and one of the differences is that audiophiles seek to fully engage with the sound coming from their stereos. Non-audiophiles play music while they do something else. I theorise that non-audiophiles learn to do that because engaging with their generally poor stereos is not terribly pleasant for any length of time. I theorise that this is because the brain gets easily fatigued, or at least distracted from really enjoying the music, when listening to a poor stereo. Whereas, for an audiophile with a good system, it is possible to sit down for an extended period and enjoy an illusion of the actual performance. This relates back to my previous paragraph about how the ear/brain does work to make sense of what it hears. But the sound, in the first place, has to be good enough to be capable of being made sense of.

I believe that most blind testing of audio cables is inappropriate for the problem. The differences between cables, as stated in my earlier post, are mainly due to small phase problems. Now the brain is very good at making sense of phase issues - such as the direction and distance of a sound - but this is only possible if the brain has a reference. For example, by having experience of what a voice sounds like when it is 10 feet away and when it is 30 feet away (verified by sight), the brain can pick roughly how far away a voice is when unsighted.

On top of this, I believe that the more actively we listen, the more our brains work to make sense of what we hear. Which also relates to why non-audiophiles tend to listen passively to their poor stereos.

Therefore, in my opinion, a typical ABX or other blind test of a cable will usually cause the brain to be actively trying to make the cables sound the same, not different. Do you follow my logic?

Therefore, in our cable business, the development of a cable is a very lengthy process. We do use blind testing, but not in the way that blind testing is usually used. I tend to listen to a new cable, almost casually, for a period of days. This is more easily done at home than on our reference system at the factory. After I have listened to something for that kind of period, I develop impressions of the character of the cable. I often get distinct impressions that PRAT is better or worse, naturalness of timbre is better or worse. I then listen to the cable more intensely on our reference system to try and pin down the tell-tale traits. At this stage I have some clues as to what I am listening for and so I may be tricking my brain to hear what isn't there, but it hopefully avoids the brain glossing over what is there in order to make it appear to be real. Once I have developed a clear theory of the sound of the cable (compared to a reference of some kind - another cable), then, and only then, do I do blind tests. In the blind tests I am attempting to distinguish between the subject cable and a reference, based on my theories about what the subject cable does right and/or wrong. If I can reliably pick it in the blind tests then I treat my theory on the cable as right. If I can't reliably pick it, then I know I was deluding myself - this happens.

So, I believe that short term blind tests of unfamiliar cables in an unfamiliar system are a waste of time. Gaining experience with a cable gives you an idea of what to listen for in a blind test to distinguish it. This takes time.

Now some people, at this point, even if they accept what I have said above, will wonder whether cable differences are important if it takes so much effort to distinguish a difference. My answer to that is that it is up to you to decide for your self. But, I do believe that persistent small phase errors that the brain cannot decode get in the way of us enjoying our music, and over a period of time become irritating.

I didn't get into the cable business because I wanted to have a business. I got into it because I became very aware of how different cabling made significant differences to the sound of my stereo, and I found it impossible to find a cable that didn't impose a coloured lens on the sound. I tried so many cables before deciding it might be cheaper to learn how to tweak a cable's design to get it right, than continue the 'lucky dip' that wasn't working for me. When I got to a design that performed well and that I knew backwards how to tweak for almost any desired sound characteristics, I stopped buying anyone else's cables.

So, Vandermeulen, I found that the subtle differences between cables were musically significant, but acknowledge that this can be hard or even impossible to pick up in some blind testing. I realise some will accuse me of posting this with some bias, but hope my rambling post made some sense.
"So, I believe that short term blind tests of unfamiliar cables in an unfamiliar system are a waste of time."

I couldn't agree more. IMO: Blind tests of cables are only significant over an extended period of time in a familiar system. There's just too many variables involved otherwise.
Antipodes...could you tell your cable from another in a blind test on a completely different system you have never heard before?
It might be very difficult if one went into the blind testing straight away. I can usually pick up the key characteristics of a system within three tracks, if the tracks are familiar, and so after that, if I knew both cables, and so what I was listening for, I would probably get better than 80%. It would be really really hard if I wasn't familiar with the characteristics of one of the cables.

See, I CAN make a short post.