How do you get past the pops and hiss of LPs?

Rockinroni said, "Your rig is entry level, you will not be able to retrieve the lower 2 or 3 octaves on this turntable." If the lowest octave is 20-40Hz, then the turntable in question can't retrieve info any lower than 80-160Hz. Roni was being kind, if a component can't reproduce anything from the upper bass downward then it's not a true hi-fi component let alone entry level high end. Thanks for clearing things up, Roni.

But then Rockinroni said that a Systemdek with Rega arm at 700$ would outperform a CD and obviously reproduce the notes below 120HZ.

I am glad that we cleared that up!

Bob P.

Viridian, listening into 20db of noise (I guess this is like the cocktail party effect) to hear music is not my idea of gained dynamic range.

Salut, Bob p.

Bob, I would never argue with you about sensitivity to audible noise, this seems to be a personal reaction and is quite subjective. However,you may not like it, but the terms "dynamic range" and "signal to noise ratio" have meanings, though you are free to make up your own definitions and language to suit what pleases you. For the record, dynamic range is defined as "The difference, in decibels (db), between the softest and loudest possible sounds that a component can produce.". Once again, the issue of non-recognition in a digital system below the least signficant bit is side-stepped.
Marty

Rockinroni...Shure my Shure finds lots of LF on LPs (my subwoofers are flat to 20 HZ). What I said was that these LF sounds are monophonic because of the way LP's are mastered so as to enable "entry level" pickups to play them. This is not necessarily bad, but it is different from digital sources where there is no reason to blend LF. Being different they will sound different. Better or worse is an opinion.

I agree with you that a good LP played with a good pickup and (as sean says) a linear tracking arm can sound really good. Problem is that when the music gets quiet that surface noise intrudes.

Isn't that where we came in?