How do you get past the pops and hiss of LPs?

Rockinroni...Shure my Shure finds lots of LF on LPs (my subwoofers are flat to 20 HZ). What I said was that these LF sounds are monophonic because of the way LP's are mastered so as to enable "entry level" pickups to play them. This is not necessarily bad, but it is different from digital sources where there is no reason to blend LF. Being different they will sound different. Better or worse is an opinion.

I agree with you that a good LP played with a good pickup and (as sean says) a linear tracking arm can sound really good. Problem is that when the music gets quiet that surface noise intrudes.

Isn't that where we came in?

This will greatly reduce or elimimate clicks and pops if the record is not scratched or damaged by incorrect cartridge alignment. Eevn if the record is not mint it will sound a lot better after cleaning with a RCM and a cartridge that will reduce surface noise, once you have done these thing you will then understand why LP's sound way better than CD's.

Steve...

I will clear this up for you. If you read my posts you will find out I said;

"You do not have to spend a fortune to get good analog sound, that is mostly free of noise (pops & clicks).
A used Systemdeck and a atcoc9 with a Rega arm will sound fantastic ($700 range).
There are many sub 1k rigs that will get you most of the way there." Like the rig you have,inpepin.

Anyway this thread is going in the trash.
So I will sum it up for you losers and say it plain.
lp's rule and have more fidelity even with a pop here and a click there. cd's suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cd's are for lazy clones that are willing to settle for pasteurized music. A Fact some are not willing to explore or admit. The only thing they lose is the music, to bad so sad.

Marty sorry about the 8 Track shot.

Rockinroni:

Boy, you are some piece of work!
So, your signoff is that people who prefer CD's are "losers" and "lazy clones." Why not just say ... 'our mothers are ugly' ... as well? Thanks for elevating the level of the discussion.

Regards, Rich

Viridian, I have a better idea of what you mean by dynamic range and signal to noise ratio, but even accepting that definition does not yield more than about 80db range for vinyl, while CD has at least 100db. And these figures I have measured using LP's and CDs. The direct to disc recordings (organ) has about 80db. BTW its surface noise is at about -70db. Pinned the needles at +10db!

Salut, Bob P.