ATC SCM12 and 50wpc Manley Stingray?

LIke I said, it's *possible* to run ATC with Stingray.

specs is a funny thing. I'd think ATC's specs is pretty conservative.
*on paper*, for intance, B&W won't be needing mega watts amps, but,
they quite often sound better with more power than less. Wilson speaker
also falls in the same. My WATT is 92db/4 ohm speakers on paper.
I have driven 'em with both tube and solid state. Even in my small den (10 X12)
I ended up using a 250 watt solid state amp. More power seems to
give a better control on woofers. Cleaner 'starts and stops'.

ATC drivers seem to be the same. Sure you can drive 'em with 50 watt,
but, in case you want to let your hair down and turn up a wick, I sure
would like to have a firm control at all time.
I'm living with SCM 10 for last 3 years and have used number of amps
with 'em. There is something to be said about *tube* power where
they can sound more powerful than what the number suggests.

*if* Stingray has a robust enough power supply, they might be ok.
I was told that ATC has a flat 8 ohm impedance but,
what hurts is that rediculously low sensitivity and of course their
sealed enclosure makes it even tougher to get any kinda bass without
a real power behind it. quite often, they get accused of not having
enough bass. From my experience, their bass goes flat when they
are underpowered. I haven't tried my pair with any tubes amps to date.
( afraid to damage the drivers ) SCM 12 at 85db will give you a wider
amp selection than my pair at 80db. If you are set on Stingray, you can
certainly try em and see. Keep us posted.

I am curious how they do.

unless tube amps have extraordinary power,they should be used with ported,tube friendly speaker systems...i used to own a set of hales loudspeakers (sealed enclosures) and they refused to sing with anything less than 200watts per channel. they did sound incredible when they were paired with the right amplifier.

I'm using Lafayette KT-550 55Watt/ch tube amp for my original SCM10 (80db)and it got plenty of power for my living room space( 22' X 14' X 8' ) It's never "lack of power" and the bass definitely could make the floor shake. I tried the Krells and they sound grainy compared to the tube amp and yet they don't produce more bass than the tube gear. For tube gears, it's not just about power rating, the output and power transformer has a lot to do with it. Therefore, if the stingray has adequate size of the transformers than it is most likely enough to drive it to a good room size.

Thanks again, all.

I will certainly give the SCM12 a home audition (probably sometime next month) and give a report of how it goes. I expect to compare it against a Shamrock Eire, Proac D15, and if I can get one in, the Harbeth M30.

The Stingray does have some muscle behind it, and it apparantly is known to be able to drive some usually tougher loads, but I don't want to tax it unnecessarily.

I will be careful to listen to how well the Stingray seems to be able to control the bass of ATCs. I don't want it to take most everything that the Stingray has just to achieve moderate listening volume and dynamics. Gotta have a little headroom for those occassions when I do turn it up a bit.

Another superb-sounding set of monitors you might consider as you're auditioning are the ProAc 1SC's. There are usually a couple of pairs for sale used here, for around $1300. I have those monitors too, and they sound fantastic on the ARC CA-50 tube integrated (45 watts). They are really marvelous little speakers with lots of bass, and they sound wonderful on tubes.