PS Audio DLIII DAC Inverts Absolute Polarity


Just wanted to let everyone know, who has a Digital Link III from PS Audio, that they may not be realizing the full potential of this incredible DAC.

I was fortunate enough to come across a new old stock unit from a dealer in CA recently. As I was waiting for the unit to arrive, I decided to catch up on some reviews to get a feel on what others thought about this DAC. I then came across a press review from Audio Xpress magazine where they described a slight flaw with this DAC.

The article says that the DLIII actually inverts polarity. What this means is that if you connect your DAC normally with either the RCA or XLR outputs, the output will be 180 degrees out of phase (reverse polarity). As I read this, I started to panic and thought I just purchased a dud. But the article goes on to say that this can be easily corrected in one of two ways: by swapping pins 2 and 3 on the XLR outputs or if all the music sources are being routed through the DAC, then you can simply reverse your speaker connections.

So I then decided to enlist the help of Rob Fritz at Audio Art Cable to make a custom XLR-to-RCA cable that makes pin 3 from the XLR connector as the Hot signal on the RCA instead of Pin 2.

As I was waiting for the custom cable, I decided to break in the DAC for a few days with the normal connections.. After about 100 hours, I was not that thrilled with the sound. Though it was warm sounding, the soundstage was a bit odd and well in front of the speakers. The bass also was very loose and ill-defined and the highs seemed a little rolled off. When I started to compare my observations with other press reviews, others had similar things to say, like a very forward soundstage.

But once my custom XLR-to-RCA cable arrived, the sound went from good to phenomenal. The soundstage was incredibly open as well as wide and deep. The treble was smooth and had great extension and refinement. But the biggest improvement was the bass. It was more natural with great definition and punch.

The reason I am sharing this experience is that many people may not know about the phase issue with the DLIII and may not be realizing the full potential of this incredible DAC.
wkass
Thank you both for a very informative discussion, however some of these proposed changes are a bit beyond my comfort zone. However, given the feedback on the sound quality after the change I am very interested in investigating further. So my setupis as follows:
* PS Audio DL lll w/balanced XLR cables to integrated amp
* Ayre AX7e integrated amp
* Ayre C5xeMP CD
* Sonos connected via digital coax to PS Audio DAC
Overall sound is very good - clearly the Ayre CD is more detailed on most music but not all. So after reading WKASS' post I am very interested in a change that could impact the sound quality in such a big way.

With my setup is it as easy as swapping the XLR cable connections at either the DLlll or Ayre side - again using full XLR between both no RCA? Or could this do damage to any equipment?

Thanks for any feedback or direction.

S
Sbleam, yes, you could accomplish the polarity correction for the DLIII, without affecting the polarity of playback from the CDP, by having the wiring of pins 2 and 3 interchanged at one end (not both ends) of the XLR cables connecting the DLIII to the integrated amp.

That can't hurt your equipment, assuming proper workmanship on the cable.

Before having that done, however, you may want to assess how much difference it would make by temporarily interchanging the + and - (usually red and black) connections at the outputs of your amplifier. For playback from the Sonos/DLIII that would accomplish the same polarity correction as the XLR pin swap, although it would result in inverted polarity for playback from the CDP.

Regards,
-- Al
Sorry to be some 7 months past this discussion, but I just bought a Cullen-modded DL III and was wondering if anybody knows how these mods affect the phasing issue, or if they are addressed at all. I have the unit connected to a Hegel H200 via XLR. Thanks.