Size of Midrange Drivers


Why, in this day of super materials, do designers still use
mini midrange drivers?
Can we expect realistic dynamics from a five inch speaker?
My former Audio Artistry Dvorak's used dual eight-inch
midranges (D'Appolito config, paper cone) and sounded fine.
I'm thinking great dynamics = lots of air moved quickly.
I'd like to hear dual eight inch diamond coated berilium with 1000 watts behind them!
I think when we're at the point where the wave launch gives you a skin peel,
we'll be close to proper dynamics.
128x128dweller
Revel Salon use about 4.5 inch drivers for good reason. Look into driver size, dynamics and dispersion.
If you are after realistic dynamics, try using front-loaded horns driven by compression drivers. Perhaps Danley has something you might enjoy. They are commercial speakers and look it but they get the job done like few others. For better looks in horns, expect to pay dearly unless you are able to score a deal on the used market.
Ptss: So you're saying that most of everything emanating from a symphony orchestra can be reproduced by a five inch driver?
I think we're just brain-locked into the current paradigm and are waiting for our "Einstein" to show us the way to the next level.

08-21-14: Dweller
Ptss: So you're saying that most of everything emanating from a symphony orchestra can be reproduced by a five inch driver?
I think we're just brain-locked into the current paradigm and are waiting for our "Einstein" to show us the way to the next level.
We've been shown various paradigms concurrent with the development of the loudspeaker. Klipsch horn loaded everything starting in 1949. The electrostatic has been around since 1919 and has had a presence in high fidelity since the mid-'50s. The Magnepan has been around for 45 years, and the Heil air motion transformer has been in production for 44 years. Even within pistonic loudspeakers, there are variations such as high excursion drivers, line arrays and other arrays of multiple drivers, downfiring woofers to couple with the floor, transmission lines, etc.

Personally, I choose the planar magnetic. My humble Magneplanar 1.7s have 509 sq. in. of diaphragm area per speaker, and in my experience provides a decided advantage in preserving clarity and voice placement in larger works, such as full scale orchestra plus 100+ voice chorus.

Each of these driver designs presents strengths and weaknesses unique to each design. We're left to pick our poison.
08-21-14: Dweller
Ptss: So you're saying that most of everything emanating from a symphony orchestra can be reproduced by a five inch driver?
A symphony orchestra has a very large range of frequencies which extend well beyond a 5" midrange driver.
So, no the 5" midrange driver cannot reproduce all those frequencies.
the speaker would need to be multi-driver where the midrange will reproduce everything in the, say, 300Hz - 2500Hz region (assuming that the midrange driver's freq response is flat over this region & that there is no cone break-up).

I think we're just brain-locked into the current paradigm and are waiting for our "Einstein" to show us the way to the next level.
The Einsteins have come & gone. I believe it's up to you to understand why certain driver choices have been made for the various speaker designs. See if you can talk to your speaker designer or tech support of your particular speaker & see if he is willing to share his thoughts on the driver choices of your speaker. It might be enlightening to you....