Modern Linestages


This is a general question about how complex and expensive some linestages have become. I'm looking to understand why? I can grasp that really good volume controls are complicated and that equally good switches are not inexpensive. I also have a general understanding of the importance of a high quality power supply, which again is not going to come cheap. I just don't comprehend how you get to a 50lbs. plus preamps that cost well over $20k. Is this level of complexity really needed or is it the equivalent of the spate of 500hp "sedans" for every day driving?
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Dammed if I know. Seems as if the cost of some of the finer vintage pre-amps w/phono stages when adjusted for inflation etc, cost no more than current line stages, albeit the newer lines stages may sound more detailed, etc.

Lets face it, cost correlates more with 'expected' value than anything else. And, FWIW bling has never come cheap either.
I agree. Are some manufacturers "gilding the lilly" just not to fall behind in sophistication perception?
I bet that overall circuit components would not exceed $1000 even on these preamps. It's obvious that from circuit components net worth of $1000 you can have world class performance. Such great preamps as Pass or Bryston don't even reach this level so here's my humble opinion.
The Manufacturers operate at a Mark up of 500%...Thats the reality of it.....
is every expensive preamp worth it? no.

do some deliver the goods? sure they do.

i have 'one of those' over $20k preamps with built-in phono stage. it's too bad it's sounds better than less expensive pre's, or even other expensive pre's, but it does.

it's swiss made, battery powered, and i've owned it for 5 years. i've compared it directly to quite a few stand alone phono stages and other pre's. it sounds better.

Michael Fremer has had the same pre for 3 years and compared it to 4 or 5 equally or more expensive pre's and only one (more expensive) was it's match....if somewhat different.

sure; the Swiss franc and the dollar is part of the issue. but it's assembled like a swiss watch....and then there is how it sounds (or rather does not sound).

and if you are asking 'where's the value?' you need to listen to it in a system which can show what it can do, maybe open it up and look at how it is assembled. use it for awhile to see how everything works exactly like you might want it to.

in the context of a top level system a no-holds-bared preamp does earn it's place. unless you have very low noise sources, a good turntable, arm and cartridge which can take full advantage of the low noise switching and attenuation, you nmight not get the full value of the refinement of the top of the food chain.