Lak,
Thanks,
Charles,
Thanks,
Charles,
Cerious Technologies NEW Graphene Cables
Now, this is not a advertisement, just a posting sharing my experience on some well made great sounding cables at a very reasonable price. Besides, I don't think Cerious Technologies is set up for a big influx of cable orders.
But, if you get the chance to try these cables, please do.
I have been interested in the newer cables coming out that are using Graphene as a conductor. SR cables seemed interesting, but I always hated the way there cables had all those extra wires (with the active shields and such). I then noticed an ad early in I think November or December from Cerious Technologies for Graphene cables. I investigated how the cables were assembled and it seemed like quite a laborious process.
I ordered (with a 30 day money back guarantee) the balanced Graphene interconnects, and boy did they impress me. Such depth, soundstage, realism, frequency smoothness, effortless sound. I was truly impressed! I now have a complete loom of the Cerious Technologies Graphene cables. That is; interconnects, speaker cables, digital cables and power cords.
I ended up selling all of my other cables and to those of you who have read my postings know that cables have always been my curiosity.
So, as I began this post, let me again iterate, I have no alliance to the company, my posting is for those of you looking for an great alternate high quality Graphene made cable without spending a fortune.
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Charles1dad, I will attempt to test the SR Black power cord and the GE high current power cord in the Yamoto Dac in the system with my Allnic 1500 (300 B Integrated amp). The only trick is to take into consideration that I currently have a HF U power cable plugged into that Dac. Results to follow in a few days or so? |
Charles1dad, That's an excellent question that I don't feel comfortable answering because my two GE power cords are high current and the SR Black isn't a high current power cord. (Could be apples to oranges, I really don't know). I will say that I'd be happy with either one and have no intention of returning any of them, they are both excellent! I do like the pricing on the Cerious Technologies products and find the power cords excellent. I'm waiting to receive their speaker cables and down the road, maybe I'll try their interconnects and digital cable. I do like what I'm hearing, and what I've read from other trusted members ;-)! |
Hi joecasey, Obviously you are correct, I often audition products but not in every single case. I’ve also had much success relying on trusted audiogon members impressions such as Lak. Sometimes I use these trusted members as effective initial filters before deciding to make a purchase. In this instance both Lak and Calloway 's opinions have considerable influence given the power cables they have owned/heard in their systems. Charles, |
charles1dad4,626 posts05-18-2016 10:07am Hello Lak,Both offer 30 days money back guarantee so no risk comparing them in your system. |
Hello Lak, I really appreciate your comments concerning these various highly regarded power cables. I'm particularly interested in the Cerious Graphene and the SR Black cables. In terms of a natural /organic character and tone saturation are they equal in this manner? This aspect of sound quality is a higher priority for me than Soundstage, image specificity or ultimate bass. My listening is predominantly jazz with acoustic instruments so the priorities I seek matter with this genre of music. Thanks, Charles, |
I purchased a Synergistic Research Black UEF power cord (regular not high current) that I burned in on my cable cooker for 210 hours. Although I own two Cerious Technologies GE high current power cords that continue to sound great, the SR Black power cord sounds very similar (same type of sound chartists) as the Cerious Technologies GE high current power cords. Long ago I purchased an Equi=Tech Model Q2 (which I still have and use in a bedroom system), so I’m aware of the benefits of balanced power. With that said I purchased a CPT W300 power cord thats due to arrive Monday. I’ll burn it in on my cable cooker. I can then compare the CPT to the GE High current power cord and the HF UR power cord on a power distributer center for my front end equipment. |
Calloway, thanks for your comments! So there is no downside comparing the CT GE vs HFC CT-1 power cord? I am also curious to hear your comments re the CPT PC as I do believe balanced power has a lot of inherent benefits. lancelock: I sold my LL DPFC sig and Ref PC long time ago, not bad but definitely not the best. I could not get used to its timbre. Glad to see CT offers such a great value proposition! Hope the money "saved" goes into other categories like isolation, room treatment (if possible), etc. |
I think the CPT 300W balanced cord with the WW Matrix 6 outlet strip is fully compatible with GE or other cords, plug in from the strip to your various equipment, they are not exclusive. The CPT 1200W and 1800W versions have 4 Hubbell duplexes outlets built into the casework, use whatever cables you desire to connect your kit. |
I will be receiving a graphene extreme power cord both High current and non HC as well as a RCA IC. I will be comparing them against the Synergistic Copper Tungsten and CTS cables. If they are as good it would be awesome as they are much less expensive. I can try it on cdp player a tt external motor and an amp so will be able to experiment. It will also need to break in so will take awhile too. I really like the SR cords and have not tried their new Atmosphere power cords that I believe have graphene so am curious about the differences between graphene and non-graphene. |
Hi Calloway, The CPT cable uses an AC balanced transformer and I'm well aware of the genuine benefit it provides an audio system. I've used a balanced transformer (BPT) in my system for 7 years and it is fantastic. I will say that the Cerious graphene cable seems to be an exceptionally fine power cable. I look forward to your listening comparison. Charles, |
Charles... the cable is better today then my first impressions.If this continues, or gets better in the next few days i will more than likely buy 2 more. I am,however, going to compare them with the CPT i have coming thursday..It should be fun. I have a couple of my audio friends coming over sunday to see which is thought to be the best.. |
Hello Thaluza, That is an encouraging early listening impression regarding the power cables. I'd be quite interested with the Ocellia and Cerious Graphene IC comparison. The Ocellia is excellent in my system. Calloway, Well your findings certainly correlates with the impressions of Lak and that's quite a feat given the substantial price discrepancy between the two brands , very noteworthy. Charles, |
Charles, I am indeed using the SR Black cables with the Frankensteins. I have only 35 hours on them. One thing is that the bass quality is much improved. It is really addicting to follow the bass line now. I will post a comment in the SR Black power cable thread later after I have 100 hours or so on them. I have a pair of Ocellia interconnects that I am using between my Coincident preamp and dac. I plan on comparing the Cerious cables with the Ocellias, which might be of interest to you. Tom |
lak I use GE RCA all throughout and they beat Kimber KCAG and AZ Silver Reference II in my system. To me they were quieter, with more intensity and tonal saturation to the music, with certainly subjectively deeper bass but also extended highs. Blacker backgrounds and greater transparency were apparent as well. Actually I should say that was the experience going from the aforementioned cables to Bob's Nano References, the GE just built on those same strengths. |
I installed one of Robert's 'red-low current' power cords last night on my Lumin Network Player and am very impressed indeed with the early sounds.Robert says it will take 'a few days' to settle in. So far i think it sounds at least as good as my CT-1 pc and if it gets better, then it will be a winner for sure and an incredible value..Stay tunes. |
I got my cables from Bob and so far I am very impressed, no, blown away. I'm selling off a lot of my old cables to make room. I now have the power cords and balanced interconnects. These produce the most natural sound I've experienced. Please let us know how the speaker cables perform for those who have them. I'm wondering if they outperform my Synergistic Element Tungston speaker cables? These cables sound way above their $$$. |
I contacted Bob yesterday via his email address and he responded within a couple of hours. I am going to buy a pair of his GE speaker cables and a pair of GE interconnects. I recently added graphene power cords and fuses from Synergistic Research and really like what I am hearing. I'm looking forward to adding more graphene products into my audio system. |
There has been another thread on the Cable Forum about a CPT power cable that is designed to provide balanced power. I wanted to try it with the Cerious Technologies Graphene Extremes so I ordered one and today I received it. First impression, it is much larger unit than I thought it would be and on first listen the audio was so-so. The video from a cable box was also just so-so, nothing special.
So, I think using utilizing the best of both designs, the CPT 300 with its balanced design feeding the Cerious Technologies Graphene Extremes is going to be an awesome combination. Enter your text ... |
Bob from Cerious again. Thanks again to everybody! The prices posted are the real deal (intro price on GE speaker cables $649 8 foot set...) and if you are a customer who has purchased from me before you are "locked in" to those prices. So 9 months from now you want another power cord...you get the intro price. You took a chance on a small US company that hand makes products so you deserve loyalty and you will receive it. Last a note on communication. While I have been very busy the whole Audiogon system is very hard to navigate as everything that comes through has login IDs and not names so not only do I have to keep orders straight but I have to figure out that Jim is "Beastmaster1000". Also Audiogon blocks anything from a seller that has numbers - like tracking numbers for shipments - Blocked! Phone numbers, internet links, email addresses. If an Audiogon communication has any of these the whole message does not get delivered so you - the customer - thinks I never responded. I will continue to check out the blog and contact anyone who says they have had a problem contacting me - and yes - I have been too busy to update the website (besides that is my daughter's job who does website design for a living and will "someday" get to updating Dad's site...Kids!). |
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Thanks John: I had incorrectly assumed that they would be more expensive than cables listed currently on the manufacturer’s website. I also did not understand how Graphene could be used on a bendable item, such as an audio cable, but having read the tread again see that the cable is impregnated (as opposed to being coated) with Graphene. Right now the living room setup is down due to our new kittens “shredding” my OTA speaker cable. I have to figure out another way to safely run the speaker cables before I get it up and running again. DeKay |
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There was a special pricing ad on Audiogon (which I no longer see) at that time I believe the price for a standard length Graghene Extreme power cord was around $300, could have been more. They might have listed for a similar price as the Synergistic Research Black Quantum power cord. If I’m incorrect I appologise ahead of time. |
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mapman 13,272 posts 05-11-2016 10:22pm "Geoff please try to not get so bent out of shape whenever the SO words are mentioned." I’m not bent out of shape. But I know someone who is. SO is what, significant other? Sales order? Special Operations? Sheriff's office? Mapman also offered up one of his fast pitches, "Have you developed that conscience you were considering or something?" Have you given any consideration to going back to school? You know, knowledge is what’s left after you forgot all that stuff from school. Mapman then attempted to stay on topic, for once, with this gem, "Wires with radically different designs have the best chance of sounding different. I’m all for trying them especially when prices are competitive." Yikes! OK, if you say so, Mapman. Where did you pull that from? Not experience, one assumes. You should patent your platitudes. Also, I think you meant to say you’re all for trying them when prices are cheap, not when they’re competitive. Nice stalking with you, cheers Geoff Kait |
I do not pretend to be a cable designer but when I saw the post about the Cerious Graphene Cables....it made complete sense to me and I hotly pursued the purchase of a a complete set of cables so that I could hear the complete result. Bob was very accommodating and kind as I had some unusual lengths in my order. He kept me informed as to the process and apologized for the slight delay. Now I have them and my instinct seems to have proven correct. They are simply the best I have experienced and will happily dangle my Q7 MK2's on them. Thanks Bob! |
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We all have opinions, those who have actually tried the Graphene cables should share there experiences. Those who have not are only speculating. But, I myself am very pleased with the sound quality derived from the use of graphene, however it is applied or achieved with the Cerious Technologies cables. Lets leave any bickering to the upcoming election. |
mapman 13,271 posts 05-11-2016 2:27pm Geoffkait: "Gee, you don’t say? Rather than take such a pessimistic view, I’d rather take the opposite view, and that’s without even trying the Graphene stuff. I’d say revel in your time and thank your lucky stars that such things are popping up in audio devices." To which Mapman responded, "That’s fine. No need to argue. Some like to be early adaptors, on the bleeding edge, whatever one might call it. Others not. Graphene has potential for sure. Unlike "snake oil" which has none. That’s a big difference!" What on Earth are you going on about? You seem to be full of platitudes today for some reason. Snake oil? oil? Got some examples? I’m dying to hear this. Let ’er rip, Mapman. Let the diatribe begin. cheers |
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Mapman wrote, "Meanwhile, it is not yet a mainstream technology for home audio so take all claims with a few grains of salt but if the facts line up don’t be afraid to try if the value proposition works for you. Also keep in mind better application of technology may equate in general with better performance but even that does not always = better sound. Sound quality will always be very much in the ear of the listener and a fairly subjective thing to determine in the end." Gee, you don’t say? Rather than take such a pessimistic view, I’d rather take the opposite view, and that’s without even trying the Graphene stuff. I’d say revel in your time and thank your lucky stars that such things are popping up in audio devices. Audiophiles often seem to get ahead of the power curve when it comes to these newer materials and concepts. The stodgy old science community seems to have run out of imagination. Carbon nanotubes, carbon fiber, carbon powder, quantum dots, Graphene. Whenever industry and science is having difficulty coming up with applications for these powerful new materials audiophiles will figure out how to improve their sound. Snooze you loose. Cheerios, geoff kait machina dynamica we do artificial atoms right |
5 amps =600 watts so only moderately high powered amplifiers would pose a potential limitation problem with the CT-1 power cable.With a 250w mono, connectors on each end got very hot. Had trouble power up a 350w stereo amp. If CT-1 is drawing too much current connectors can melt. A different type of PC and must respect the limits. Shipped them to Rick check for damages. Not the most accurate but since I'm not armed with an engineering and physics degree, I don't use them on components with 5+ Amp fuse so only Dac. |
