How do I burn-in the receptacle? Would plugging in a lamp and running it day and night work? Or, must there be a significant load on the AC to be effective? |
Thanks everyone ... I will use some lamps to "burn-in". I hope that will work. |
lak - Oh! I think you are suggesting that running a lamp might not be enough current to do the job? |
And here's a general question: If my PS Audio P10 is plugged in, but without the components running, will the P10 draw enough current through the Furutech outlets by itself? |
Indeed ... technology is often times a strange and mysterious world. Having worked in the world's greatest technology company for nearly 40 years (started at 19), I've been skeptical of developments, small and large. I was the performance laboratory manager for 13 years (of my 27 years in SW/HW development management). For example; there was no marketplace for small consumer computers, cache memory was a joke someone was pulling on us, no one will use a cash dispensing machine, a small form-factor disk ... it'll never work; or how about a disk operating system for non-commercial purposes? Been there, seen all that. So, I will see (hear) what Furutech is all about and get back to all of you. I and all my technology audiophile friends (who own more patents than I have years) who actually did develop voice technology in the '70s, something called System-R (relational) software and eye recognition. A computer out-duel Ken Jennings? It would never happen - or did it? Maybe there is something to Rhodium treated AC outlets with rare alloys ... maybe not! |
nkonor - My system? Okay ... ARC REF 75SE, REF 5SE, all Accuphase digital, including SACD, PS Audio P10, Nordost and Tannoy Westminster Royal SE (horn) speakers (before that, Soundlab M1A). Yes, I'll keep a dairy of my impressions at 100 hour intervals, for whatever my opinion is worth.
Ozzy - I will research your recommendation regarding Oyaide covers.
geoffkait - Yes ... the greatest technology company, for which there wouldn't be the technology companies listed ... all but one ... the one that started the computer technology and all the users and enablers of those enterprises listed. I'll just leave it at that.
I will return to this forum and share my impressions; for that is all I will be able to offer - impressions - reality based impressions from empirical observation, filtered through my own aural biases (I went to college on a partial music scholarship at 16 - violin).
I must say to all of you that this has generated a bit more feedback than I expected ... and I appreciate it all, on both sides of the technology question. |
Yes, BAL was the language we all used at the start of my career. It is a very thrifty language in its' use of memory. It required coding discipline, unlike today's bloated high-level languages.
Ah yes, Art Clarke's 2001: A Space Odyssey and his very clever twist on the HAL moniker (i.e., H (i) A (b) L (m). I was sort like one of those primates throwing clubs ... more age dating! |
geoffkait - yes, I'm probably a bit older than you. My first program was coded in EXCP - and yes, I was trained in OS internals - hmm ... I'm dating myself ... |
I started when I was nineteen .... |
nkonor - Yes, the Furutech GTX-D (R) AC outlets were professionally ($$$) installed yesterday. indeed, I have AC power to my system ... that's a start! I had no idea my simple question would result in 1879 (and counting) views and 73 posts. You warned me. Imagine what will happen if I decide the Furutech outlets aren't doing the job ... and I fire them! I must say I've had an interesting time reading everyone's posts and thank everyone for their comments. Now, I will attempt some critical listening. But now I wonder if the power cord will be a significant factor affecting AC transmission ... ??? |
And the reason I ask about the power cords is that ARC (my amp/pre-amp) clearly states in the owner's manual that substituting cords is a no-no; invalidates warranty T&Cs. Why, I wonder? It begs the question regarding all cable connections to their equipment. I suppose power to the device with wire that is unsafe/harmful might be their reasoning. In any case, I would like to try a Nordost 20 amp PC. I've heard the ARC REF 75SE/5SE PCs are made by Cardas. Does anyone know the facts? |
Clarification (pg. 6, owner's manual): "it is important that the Reference 75 be connected via ITS SUPPLIED 20 amp IEC 12-gauge power receptacle". Continuing on with ARC US Warranty T&Cs, "the warranty is void and inapplicable if the product has been used or handled other than in accordance with the instructions in the owner's manual" (see pg 6 owner's manual excerpt, above)". My comment is not a fabricated claim, but a literal interpretation of the ARC owner's manual and warranty terms. |
I did see that warning. ARC seems to want the owner to connect their AMPs directly to the AC, and not use any power conditioner or regenerator. Is that due to the power requirements of their AMPs? I purchased a PS Audio P10 to protect my equipment from surges, brown-outs, sudden electrical malfunctions. I also put a full-house surge protection unit that shuts down the panel to my home. In any case, are there specific attributes I should look for (other than 12 awg) in a power cord for a REF 75SE? |
Oh my, I failed to see that. Thank you, folkfreak. I would really like to try an alternative power cord just to compare. But the "sole risk of the owner" does have a chilling implication. I wonder if "sole risk of the owner" can be interpreted as 'if something goes awry in the amp and is determined to be caused by a non-ARC PC' that the warranty is void? I'm just wanting to be careful ... these toys are expensive. I wouldn't want to void any warranty I may have with ARC. That said, I've used ARC equipment for more than a quarter century without a problem. |
folkfreak - I wish I had known that BEFORE I bought the PS Audio. I spoke to a lot of people before I purchased P10 who whole-heartedly support the P10 ... hmm! I had the contractor install a dedicated (i.e., there is nothing on the circuit but my stereo equipment) 20 amp circuit, with its own circuit breaker. I will do as you suggest; plug directly into the wall ... into the new Furutech GTX-D (R) outlets that started this whole forum entry. So, I will ask you, folkfreak, does the P10 'wastefulness' also apply to the REF 5SE and Accuphase equipment? Have I been restricting dynamics across the board? |
cleeds - I have been running everything through my P10. folkfreak - I will listen to hear if I can detect a degradation. There's so many different perspectives on all this power related subject. Both - thank you for your insights ... |
nkonor - but the 'shoot out' has yet to be conducted? I had no idea there was so much interest in AC outlets. It seems that there's been a great deal of effort into preparing for this 'shoot out', and an extraordinary amount of interest. geoffkait- Perhaps you could write a BAL app to conduct the 'shoot out'? |
nkonor - actually, I haven't - an unexpected death, yesterday, of a close friend occurred. I will, however, post my impressions 'to this forum' when personal matters settle ... "and all the rest is silence". |
The nature of
memory, despite the best efforts of scientists, remains an elusive and
capricious entity. It would be difficult to follow the neurological progression
which leads one to subjective judgment. I’ve been ill, hospitalized, which has
broken the continuity in my listening for a qualitative assessment of the
Furutech AC outlets. Perhaps that is a good thing, obviating anticipatory
expectations. I will not attribute some higher level of aural performance to
the Furutech outlets; that would necessitate my concluding some mystical
transcendence resulted in changes in the ‘sound’ of my equipment. But I will
say that there is a difference in
other attributes that make up my listening experience. There is an elevated
preciseness/sharpness in what I would characterize as ‘the attack’ of notes -
more energy, thrust, silence. And
therein is what I believe is the improvement … the energy delivered to the
components that make up my system reacting to its life-blood, electricity. Music
is a non-conceptual language, beyond the range of men’s understanding. Some
try, others claim to know what a piece of music means or what it signifies. Men
only have poetic ideas of what a composer intended, no more. Likewise, I have
only an idea of what ‘changed’ with the installation of the Furutech AC
outlets; but change it did. Perhaps the electrical signal is purer causing the
spaces between notes to be more silent,
the vocalist’s breathe livelier, or
the striking of the drumhead sharper.
What I have concluded is an improvement in a manner
independent of the components themselves, or that’s what the neurological
progression leads to my subjective judgment … all the rest is silence.
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