Hey RICH Audiophiles

wolf_garcia,

Rush to eBay and get a few more Discmen before geoffkait tweaks them all.

*G* glupson, as you've inferred...there is that point where the vehicle IS the 'music'.  And at that point, one shouldn't be listening to audio 'distractions' (as fine as they may be, and as enthralling as it can be).

Twits with cellphones in one hand on the road are the most common and the most annoying to yours truly.  Music for the most part keeps us sane on the commute or the 'round town runs'.  However...

If you're stroking the gearlever or pushin' paddles, clipping the apexes, heel 'n toe dancing, and making the tac bounce:

Please Pay Attention To What Thou Is Doing.
Most of the souls about you *sigh* aren't.....
Best to cut some slack rather than cut offs.

'High end' audio in a vehicle seems a bit overboard IMO, unless one does a Lot of long distance runs in a 'Benz or Beemer; then, at least it may be 'quiet enough' for the nuances.  If that sort of detail desired, you ought to own a Tesla and let the robot drive.  Even then, the AI is still like a youngster that needs 'supervision'; 'They' still seems to get confused by the less rational Humans about 'Them'. *G* ;)

Ultimately, at least for this pedal pusher:  If I wish to get lost in the music, I'd rather do so at home.  It's very unlikely that I'll have to do a 'brake test' with a oncoming left turn, ill-timed....

...an enthusiastic Sunny D. Dog, bumping my drink, is another thing...*L*..
but doesn't included rapid decelerations with crumpled metal, air bags, seat belt bruises, 'n all that...

The old MG ads had it Right:  "Safety Fast."

And, as I remind spouse (and Everyone getting behind the wheel):
"Drive like there's people like ME out there." ;)

Current bumper sticker:
MY OTHER CAR IS THIS CAR
BUT IN ANOTHER DIMENSION

It's up to you to determine where we 'are'....;)
Holographic universes, 'n all that.....*snicker*

....Oh, and stop picking on geoffkait....(Hi, g...*s*)

After all, it all comes down to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9F5xcpjDMU

Hamsterdam was the 'cleansed' version for the Kia Soul ads.
I'd LOVE to have a Hamster suit...a old bud from LA's father used to wear a mask on the Side of his head, facing left, while driving LA freeways during commutes....

I like that sort of thing....

asvjerry,

I agree with you on almost all views about driving. As a note, unless something changed in last two years or so, Tesla's USB ports seem to be only for charging and not for music transfer from the phone. People with iPhones and such can/could do Bluetooth. I also tried jump drives with multiple file formats and could not get anything. Maybe there is a way, but a Tesla salesman did not know it.

I am not picking on geoffkait, just mentioning him. Given the number of unprovoked insults to me and my family members, including calls for my death, he has thrown my way before I knew the way he operates, I kind of do not feel guilty.

I have decided I need to be rich. So, send me money. ALL you have. Period. I will start a GOFundMe for poor audiophile needing cash...In the immortal words of Janis:                     
"" Oh lord, wont you buy me a mercedes benz?            
My friends all drive porsches, I must make amends.             
Worked hard all my lifetime, no help from my friends,         
So lord, wont you buy me a mercedes benz?Oh lord, wont you buy me a color tv?            
Dialing for dollars is trying to find me.                
I wait for delivery each day until three,                
So oh lord, wont you buy me a color tv?Oh lord, wont you buy me a night on the town?           
Im counting on you, ""                       
Yup.

I'm an old guy on fixed income and if I want to critically listen without room interference I put on my trusty Sennheiser HD600's and I don't complain about not having a 50K system.

“The real question is why do rich audiophiles buy exorbitantly high priced systems when there are so many less expensive options to achieving equal or even better sound? Wealthy / successful people are usually focused on end state results, not tweeking or enjoying the incremental upgrade steps. I don't consider them audiophiles any more than I would consider a street beggar a concert violinist just because someone gave him a Stratovarius.”

Congratulations to 1extreme!

Never before have I read so much prejudice, self-delusion, arrogance, inaccuracy, assumption and envy packed into three sentences.

Have never had the pleasure of owning a Porsche or Lamborghini (on a machinist's salary, couldn't afford anyway) but over the years did build up several very nice muscle cars - mostly 60s models  Camaros, GTOs and a 69 Vet. I installed very decent audio systems, but could never hear over the roar of the engines anyway. Now have the same problem with my HD Streetglide, with custom headers, pipes and intake, the upgrade audio package is about useless...Jim

I think this thread shows what a fallen world we live in.   Some people do it the other way when they have money.  My wife runs the funding for a $4B hedge fund..  I dated her 4 years till i figured out she was rich. She always answers that shes an accountant at a small family office.    I though her apartment (chicago) was pretty big for the location, but i also though her ex husband might have paid for it.  Besides that she lives very frugal.   If you ask her the only true riches in this world are of faith, because its the only thing you take when you leave.

“Woulda, shoulda, coulda. I coulda been 5’10”.” - Judge Judy

I thank my lucky stars I ain’t rich. Necessity is the mother of invention. Besides, there’s the camel 🐫 and eye 👁 of the needle thing to ponder. Revel in your time.

Judge Judy ! The worlds  most living human(?)  example of the evil that can arise from being educated past , FAR past, your intellect .

Obviously she didn’t listen to enough Schubert growing up. 

Hard to think of two things farther apart than faith and a hedge fund .Your wife must be a saint .

Judy has never grown up , stuck about about 8 .

I’ll be the judge of that.

Judge Judy is a very rich woman who got rich on her idea. Plenty of imitators, but the original is still good.That is my judgement of the Judge Judy situation.

They don’t keep me here because I’m gorgeous. They keep me here because I’m smart.

@glupson our turbo 996 X-50 sounded like an atomic powered vacuum cleaner, say a lightweight aluminum body Kirby but jacked up to run on 440 V

i much prefered the 993 with goofy not really legal exhaust..on full song attack mode it was glorious....very germanic....beserker style...

 @wolf_garcia i have a minty fresh D-5 discman, including the box....

I of course paid to much for it a full range stereo shop - the MCS and appliance aisle of the Sanduskey Ohio JC Pennys...My recollection it was treated as a white elephant next to the exalted Fisher and MCS stacks and towers of low density MDF..hence the red sticker..20% off, my Mom who ran the womens coats dept kept an eagle eye on the discount items...with her discount...well, we are living high on the hog...

served me well for many years hooked to a NAD 3020 and Kef 101...

shall I send it your way on a loaner basis ? like MOMA lends....art ?

 @elizabeth you have never seen Janis lil 356 with custom paint....

send the link to gofundme....I have a soft spot, after we take care of the Paradise Fire folks and the hedge fund pays out....

I saw a documentary (sort of) about the Joplin 356. The guy who wrote "Mercedes Benz" also wrote "Where Did Vincent Van Gogh?" And, I had a CD Walkman with a line out! It died, as did a more recent and inferior model...now I just use my phone.

Very interesting thread. It touches a lot of subjects I am also fighting with.
I think the number one question to answer is "how do I move my system forward in the direction I want without wasting my money"

If the audiophiles could be better to make hifi-clubs to meet and discuss hifi and also help each other borrowing gear and measuring their rooms. Then a lot of the problems could be solved.

Sitting at home reading reviews is like looking in a cookbook when you are eating oatmeal (:

I have just committed the sin myself ordering a pair of Tekton Double Impact that I have no way to return because I live in Denmark. A very risky move. But agin speakers are not easy to loan because the are big and heavy.

That was a side step. I just want to say we need more physical support groups.

Regarding the original thread, It could possibly be done, being set up as a lease program/programs in large hub areas  sa. Denver, SLC, Seattle, Las Vegas, Phoenix and any number of the large East and West Coast hubs. Since there is a major hub within two or three hundred miles of anywhere, self pick up shouldn't be impossible for most.
There would be some limitations for both leaser and lessee. It may not be the avenue to every piece of dream equipment, without substantial cost, for the leaser nor would it be a great money maker for the lessee, but could have some mutual benefits for both.
If I win the lotto, might just give it a try......Jim

I don't recall ever going to a concert hall where I could change the programming by pushing a button on a remote control, and, it would be much more than 10 years of tickets before something like Harry Partch's Delusions of the Fury will be at a hall near me.  There are plenty of good reasons for $20k+ speakers in a nice system and the experience does not have to compete with attending a concert--it is something different.

I have almost never run into a person who did not listen to live acoustic music
that had good taste in music .Must others who go to other types of concerts do so a social not musical event .

It i also really hard to go to a concert to hear dead people. I see Caruso is going to perform at the Met? Callas? John Lennon? Oh how about Janis Joplin?

Too big of risk of damage to the speakers IMO. A couple scuffs on some 20-30k speakers is a big deal. 

this past 2 months diet of live concerts, not social events...

AJ Croce
Alison Brown
Richard Thompspn
Blackberry Smoke tommorow..
more coming..soon
....and a steady diet of small event acoustic stuff, etc.

Thank you for making my point .

I often adjust the sound to my tastes at concerts because I'm running the sound...a benefit of that job, and I'm often set up near a back door so If things get weird I can run away.

You are so correct Elizabeth.  Dead artist seem to be busy reissuing records at the expense of their live performance appearances.  

As for mofojo's concern with cosmetic damage to $20-30k speakers, the solution is simple--pay four or five times that amount and you get something so ugly that cosmetic damage is irrelevant.