Rhodium vs Gold AC connectors

Michelzay, Hi, That was a good review on your part, I enjoyed reading your post, come over to the cable threads some time to the Tara labs thread, cheers

Rafael0054, what did you use the Gold furutech on, solid state?, tube equipment?, what did you use the gold fitted power cord on?, this will help, Thankyou.

Thankyou Rafael0054, this did help, question, does the gold sound better on snare drum and vocal mid-range to you than the rhodium on your solid state cd-player?

Hi Rafael0054, I have a solid state amp, and a tube hybred cd-player running direct to amplification, it is the recepticles I am interested in, at first, I thought gold, the rhodium, now gold again, I believe I might need to get both and listen to what sounds best on what, I only need two GTX-D outlets, however, I would have to sale one and re-buy the better sounding one if I went that route, my tube digital has plenty of resolution from a good after market power cable, the gold may work there, even though it is tube, I really do not know which way to go between gold or rhodium?

Hi jebsmith73, Have you experimented between gold and Rhodium out-lets?, good to see you, I do not mind buying both to find out what works best where and on what, however, that means I would likly loose money on buying one out-let, then buy another, to bad I cannot audition the two and send the one back that does not work.

Rafael0054, Hi, I may have to bite the bullet and buy both to find out what works best on what, do you have anything to add to your impression's of your experimenting?, the answer to you r question is, all the post over the last couple of months has been a mixed bag of what's best between Gold and Rhodium, your explanation of why is helped me alot, cheers.

Thankyou Rafael0054 for your reply, cheers.

Sabai, interesting feed back, all this seems to be a mixed bag of no certain absolute in nothing with gold compaired to rhodium, auditioning seems a must to what works best where.

thankyou rafael0054 for your post, very helpful, keep up the good research, the truth is in the use!

Hi RJA, concerning your 10-11-14 post, can you tell me what componet you put the Furutech GTX-D Gold on?, what you put your Rhodium outlet on?, cheers.

RJA can you be more specific?, cheers.

Thankyou RJA, However Gentleman, I am getting the complete package, the carbon fiber plate and aluminum wall frame,is there any increase in performance getting the plate and frame?, I was leaning towards getting the GTX-D Gold, it seems everyone has the Rhodium on the solid state amplifiers, that is what I am putting the first wpo on first, latter, I believe I might need the Gold on the digital, the Tara Cobalt power cord would benefit from the Gold I believe, I also am getting the SR Red fuses in the next few weeks for my amp, I talked to Synerchistic on the phone, Elliot was his name, I have to have four for my amp, ouch!, that's $400.00, However, I will be buying all from vh-Audio, cheers.

Hi TBG, As it turns out, after talking to Elliot at Synerchistic research, The SR RED fuses are directional, here is the reason Elliot said, they are cryo treated from one end to the other, and that every componet out there has different resistance on one of the fuse holder prongs from the other, told me to install one at a time, and flip them around to determine the best sound , no need to check with meter,cheers.

Hi, which Furutech GTX-D Rhodium or Gold sounds better on vocals and the over all mid-range for solid state amplification?

In other words, which Furutech GTX-D puts the vocals further into the room and sound full?

Hi TBG, yes, Elliot did seem knowledgable, I'm going to take his advise, as a matter of fact, he said he developed the SR Reds fuses!, currently, the main thing now is for many to answer my Question about these Furutech GTX-D Gold or Rhodium recepticles, I buying next week end, and like many to chime in to help, cheers to you TBG.

Hi TBG, is your furutech equipment fully burned to 200 and more hours?, if so, can you tell me if you exsperienced more fuller body on the vocals?, and thrusted more into the room with music behind the vocals?, thankyou TBG, you have been a great asset of help to me.

I,m getting Both!, I will tell you the out come when I get 500 hours on both The Furutech GTX-D Gold and Rhodium, I suppose I may do a review of them, cheers.

Jebsmith73, do you use or own any of the furutech GTX-D Rhodium or Gold I will have saturday?

Thankyou Jebsmith73 for your reply, many have the same opinion as TBG does about the furutech GTX-D Rhodium and Gold, I will see the out come over the next couple of months, currently, I bought both, however, I can exchange the looser for the winner between the two versions, or it may turn out that I can use both?, one version may work better than the other version on any given componet.

Hi Jebsmith73, As it turns out, I got 28% off full retail for the Gold Furutech GTX-D with the frame and cover plate package, then, to my suprise, friends that are dealer distributors got me a brand new un-cooked Rhodium for $156.00 shipped to me, now I may be getting another brand new frame and cover plate for an astounding $120.00 shipped to me, I will see if this deal pans out, that is a great deal considering my next best price is a whoping $265.98 from the same person that I bought the 28% package deal from, for the frame and cover plate, there are a total of three diferent people that I am dealing with, the two people I got the best deals from are personal friends that is tring to help me.

Evaluating both Rhodium and Gold Furutech GTX-D outlet's now.

Rafael0054, Hi, are you there?, I believe I am done way sooner than I thought, I can give you my impression's of compairisons if you answer here.

very,very, bad news Michaelzay and Rafael0054, running the Furutech GTX-D Rhodium and Gold version's together was fxxxxxx awefull!, run them 4 hours to no prevail!, no open sound,cancelled each other out bad!, that was the worst experiment to date for my system ever!, answered my own question, does anyone run the Gold with the Rhodium?, no wonder I did not get any answers!, they do not work together at all!, as a matter of fact, I am getting another Rhodium for the Krell anyway, I believe the bass will come thru, and if it does not, I likly will sale it,BTW, I put my $6.00 15 amp hospital grade copper alloy made in mexico outlet back on the krell with the Rhodium on the digital, oh yea, the magic is back with bass and slam, and with all the best clarity and attributes of the Rhodium intact, cheers.

Hi Michaelzay, I enjoyed your review and find that I have the same impressions between Gold and Rhodium Furutech GTX-D wpo's, my cables are copper!, The Tara labs Zero Gold I/C, Tara labs Omega Gold speaker cables, Tara labs Cobalt power cord that is terminated with oyaide ends, the Rhodium is incredible with these cables, I went through a shock factor of the synergy with all of this, The Gold did not have the magical sound stage presatation or the Resolution that the Rodium brought out of my cables, you seem to be the first audiophile that knows what he is talking about, has nothing to do with tube or solid state equipment, like you said, rather it has everything to do with cables synergy!, well said Michaelzay, one thing that is most important that I have not said to no one yet, is the fact the Rhodium is incredible on the $5,450.00 Tara labs Cobalt power cord that is this,, Another industry first is TARA Labs' propriety annealing process, known as SA-OF8N 99.999999% copper (super-annealed, oxygen-free, eight nines pure copper). This creates a unique, long, unbroken crystal structure called “mono-crystal” which has exquisitely smooth and detailed transfer of frequencies over a very wide bandwidth. pure copper, which is the purest in the cable industry,even more pure than occ copper that is 6-nines,also versus cheaper power cords that I do not use that I had on hand for many comparisons that was not so much of a huge improvement like putting the Rhodium on a very good pure copper power cord, cheers.

what I want to know is, Has anyone mixed Furutech GTX-D Rhodium and Gold wpo's?

Michaelzay, yes, I have considered a power cord for the krell 700cx, krell says they cannot put an IEC on the back panel, it would consist of machine work, so I have an Idea, leave about a foot of the stock hard wired power cord coming out of the amp, and terminate with furutech to a power cord of my choice, and since the Tara labs Cobalt with oyaide termination's is nothing short of revolutionary on my digital running direct to amplifier that Is a $5,450.00 power cord, I was considering getting the new top model Tara labs Grandmaster Evolution with oyaide terminations that is a whoping $12,000.00 6ft power cord for the krell, this would take up to a year or so to do, considering the cost of the entire set-up, that is the only way to do this, is some kind of fancy termination modds from one power cord to the other.

very,very, bad news Michaelzay and Rafael0054, running the Furutech GTX-D Rhodium and Gold version's together was fxxxxxx awefull!, run them 4 hours to no prevail!, no open sound,cancelled each other out bad!, that was the worst experiment to date for my system ever!, answered my own question, does anyone run the Gold with the Rhodium?, no wonder I did not get any answers!, they do not work together at all!, as a matter of fact, I am getting another Rhodium for the Krell anyway, I believe the bass will come thru, and if it does not, I likly will sale it,BTW, I put my $6.00 15 amp hospital grade copper alloy made in mexico outlet back on the krell with the Rhodium on the digital, oh yea, the magic is back with bass and slam, and with all the best clarity and attributes of the Rhodium intact, cheers.

Thankyou TBG, I might not do anything to the power cord, BTW, do not ever use a furutech GTX-D Rhodium mixed with Furutech GTX-D Gold, it does not work, as a matter of fact, they work against each other, worst sounding experiment to date ever on my system, needless to say Norm, I have another Rhodium coming, and If that does not prevail on the krell with the other Rhodium on the tube/solid state hybred digital player like my $6.00 copper/bronze outlet that is on the krell and sounds wonderful with the Rhodium on the digital, then I will conterplate on selling the Rhodium to some fortunate audiophile,I remember years ago, I tried numerous power cords on a different krell amp, that did not work, the stock power cord for some odd reason was better period, that was in the late 90's, cheers Norm.

Hi Rafael0054, Thankyou, that was some helpful information, I will do exactly as you have said if the other Rhodium does not work good with a Rhodium on the krell, you know, these older krell amps are finiky to any change attempts, very odd!, I will absolutley keep the Furutech FPX cu outlet in mind, may be a while, I am not sending the Gold back untill saturday morning, then because it is christmas, it may be 4 or 5 day's till I get the Rhodium, this time, I am sticking it on the refrigerator for 300 hrs before I use it, I know now exactly all the break-in changes of sound for the Gold and Rhodium, ha, I do not want to listen to that again, LOL!

Rafael0054, you asked of some impression's between the Furutech GTX-D Rhodium and Gold?, The biggest mistake most make of the Rhodium is they think that the mid-range is reccessed with-in the sound stage, the fact is, that depends on your cables, I have cables that are world renowned to have one of the best sound stages possible, that includes a front to back very deep sound stage that is rare for any cable to do, that said, The Rhodium outlet keeps that intact, it is more forward with the mids than the Gold, but also has an incredible depth to the Rhodium that the Gold does not do at all!, a test that can be done is, walk up to your speakers, walk all the way to the wall behind your speakers, if you can hear the music close to what it is like in front of your speakers, you have good depth, the Gold absolutley did not have any sound what so ever behind the speakers, everything was in front of the speakers, but not forward sounding at all, this Rafael0054 is 2-dimensional sounding versus the 3-dimensional sound of the Rhodium, hope this helps.

Rafael0054, also, I will add, The furutech GTX-D Rhodium also has a bigger stonger middle, more together layered sound where as the Gold version is not as big or tight vivid sound stage, I am into presatation alot as you can read here,hope this was some help as well.

Rafael0054, Do you think there was a possibility that The Rhodium gave the Krell a bass suck out because the Rhodium used never had 200 watts and more on it?, like maybe it was not burned in to the power of my amp that is nearly 500 watts just on idle?, mmmm?

Rafael0054, I talked to Krell yesterday, as it turns out, the stock power cord that is 10awg 3/1 9ft is a common power cord, but patrick bresnahan also said that the hard wireing part of this power cable is unlike any other manufactuor's, most use a bus bar then go from there, Not krell, this power cord is wired directly to the power supplies and power regulator's, that's really good, however, Patrick also said that the plug on the end of the cable is also common, that I would really benefit by changeing the plug at the end of the power cable, a big up-grade in sound he said would happen, The Furutech FI-50M comes to mind, oh no!, I might agonize again between Rhodium and Gold?, pricy!, $300.00 for that plug, It's on my pallet to do list for sure, nothing but the best for MR Krell.

Rafael0054, since I know Gold does not mix with Rhodium, pending that all this works out, The Furutech FI-50 plug I would get will be Rhodium, I really would not have a choice, have you read the info on this plug?, spectacular it is, It is said that this plug does more High performance than the wpo's, what's your take?

Rafael0054, I was wrong!, The Carol 3/1 solid core conductor, oil and water resistance, 600 volts power cord on the Krell is $200.00 a foot, more exspensive than beldin power cords, when I put a Furutech FI-50 or FI-52 Rhodium plug on the end of this stock power cable, it should be way better than before.

Rafael0054, I am doing the metal matching you have told me to do, The Furutech FI-50 or FI-52 Rhodium is an exact match for the Furutech GTX-D Rhodium, I agree, I will give the wpo time to hear what will happen on the krell first, If that pans out, it's off to the races with the plug, however, I have a question for all here, is there a benefit between a 20 amp plug over a 15 amp plug?, I just got confirmed to use a single pole 30 amp breaker on my Krell, this allows more current, and better the amp's sound stage and allows the amp to run smoother as Krell says, and a member here on audiogon uses a 30amp breaker on each of his Krell 750mcx amps, of course I am not doing that till I see what the Rhodium does with the Krell over a period of time, the 30 amp breaker that is here new in bag will be the last thing to do after the full impression's of the Rhodium's.

Thankyou TBG, I believe I will do the 20 amp plug, it is awkward looking, it has a side ways connector blade on it, any 20 amp wpo will accomidate this type blade configuration though, do you believe the 20 amp plug allow's for more current?

yes, I will Take your and TBG's advice, however, there is a big cost difference, the furutech FI-50 is $295.00 and the FI-52 is $341.00, this hobby is exspensive, to bad I do not know where to get an IEC installed on my amp, I talked to a fellow member, He just bought used Krell 750mcx mono Blocks that the previous owner had the IEC's installed, he was never told where this was done, I asked, Krell say's they will not do it because of the machine work involved, and they do not have any 700c back plates in stock any more which would be a fix.

Hi rafael0054, I was considering putting the new Rhodium on the refrigerator when it gets here monday or tuesday, however, when I think about it, The krell will cook the crap out of it alot faster!, I will just suffer the sound of burn-in I suppose, do you believe this to be a good idea?

Hi Sonic_genius, I am sure that outlets are system dependent, I do not know if you are aware that I had the Gold and Rhodium here for complete evauation, the gold was two dimensional sounding, all music was in front of the speakers, no debth, the gold on solid state and tube equipment that I have sounded hard sounding compaired to the Rhodium out let's, also, equipment is only part of it all, the most all this does have to do with is the cables being used, however, what componet's do you have that have the 300B tube's?, and what cables and model do you have, welcome to the thread.

Rafael0054, Thankyou, I will put the Furutech GTX-D Rhodium on to the amplifier when it gets here, my amp was made in 2005, however, it's been mostly refurbished with 2014 parts and modifications, also, a due note here, I have studied the wall plug that is oem on the caroll power cord on the krell, as it turns out, it is a 15 amp interpower brass plated plug, about $20.00 plug, it is not phosorus copper, so the fpx cu Furutech will not be a match here for metal, I will be moving toward chanching the plug on the Krell power cord no matter if the Rhodium wpo's work out on the system or not, I did read a wonderful review today saying that the Furutech FI-50 Rhodium wall plug is a match with complete synergy and quality sound with the GTX-D Rhodium wpo, when I do the plug change I do not know yet, I will not have the new GTX-D R until monday or tuesday, then these wpo's take so darn long to break-in, how is what you doing coming along?, do you have some good feed back for me to learn from you as always?

Rafael0054, wow!, just installed the furutech GTX-D Rhodium on the krell brand new out the box, get this, it is not bright at all!, The krell has the best bass I have ever heard out of this amp, talking about a hit home run here, I am pleased!, the two Rhodium's are awsome to say the least together for the entire system sound, this turned out way better than I ever expected, Bravo!

Thankyou Rafael0054, it has been a pleasure to talk to you and learn from you.

Rafael0054, Hi, I installed the Furutech outlet wall frame and cover plate, I had doubts that these could give improvement, man, talking about a nice improvement, this wall frame and cover plate works great!, A substantial improvement.

Hi Rafael0054, I agree, I have never listened to any tweak's as good as the furutech's, each day my system sound's better and better as the outlet's burn-in, I believe soon I will get another wall frame and cover plate for the Rhodium on the digital, oh, the frame also comes with a pure teflon flat piece of material that goes on the frame before you put the wpo on the frame, even the 2" screw's are alpha cryo treated, a very well thought out product, I am as happy with the wall frame and cover plate as I am the Furutech GTX-D Rhodium wpo.

Hi Michaelzay, I look forward to what you have to say, however, you should consider the Furutech FI-50 Rhodium wall plug's and IEC's, Rhodium over pure copper twice cryo treated, called alpha treated, this treatment is the new best of cryo money can buy, Happy listening.

Hi Rafael0054, under guidance from audiogon memeber's and krell, I installed a single pole 30 amp breaker on my modded krell 700cx with the 4awg speaker cables, after 17hrs of play time on the new breaker, talking about wow!, this was an incredible tweak, the Furutech GTX-D Rhodium's said, bring it!, they are cold to the hand when most recepticles would get warm to hot under this kind of unlimited current, bigger sound stage, vocals are deep organic real!, deeper bass, slam like a bomb going off in my home, snare drum sounds like a real one in my listening room, most people go through all their lifes and never get this synergy throughout their entire system, I am extremly Happy with the trancedence of all this, each day this system is getting better.

Michelzay, the furtech I specified is pure copper, and it is the best of cryo treated, alpha is a new treatment that is better than the norm cryo, and yes!, the furutech FI-50 Rhodium is supperior!, you get what you pay for, tring to get you to absolute nirvana, you may go through the motion's of spending money, I alway's go to the top, then decide impression's, if it does not work, on to the next.

Michelzay, yes, you got my interest now with your last post,thankyou, please keep me informed with your comparision's, speaking of saving money, I recently installed a single pole 30 amp breaker in place of a 20 amp, it costed $5.00 for the new breaker, talking about the wow! factor, best money I ever spent in my life in audio, I would have spent $300.00 for what the 30 amp breaker did for my amp, I look forward to all you have to say.