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what percentage of us really knows sound

Hi,been in audio preatty much all my live,play a few instruments myself, and it is chocking to me how many people in this hobbie, because they have a few Hi end gear
think that they can discern sonic diferences,or that their system sounds amazing, when 80% of time when I' listen to those fellows system, the sound is horrible, I'm talking about systems in the upper $50000, and this people come out, talking about soundstage, inner detail, and layers of sound cascading thru a huge soundscape, another thing is that, I'thought all this audiophile people where a group of well to do business people, that had money to speare,
when the truth is that most of audiophile people are broked
and dont' have their priorities toghether, been at many many, audiophile people's house, and it is sad, people with, high end systems, and no furniture,just bought a pair of speakers, $11000 retail and an Aiwa,component has more BASS THAN this speakers, affter spending more than $2500, on cables,think someone is taking advantage of the audiophile community
juancgenao

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tvad
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A lot of truth in what you wrote. Kudos for being brave enough to post it.
tvad
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Juancgenao, see why I gave you props for being brave and speaking your mind?

There will be many replies attacking your hearing, listening skills, or taste. Stick to what you hear.

Thumbs up!
tvad
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Nice.

Check "Poor System" off the objections list.
tvad
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What's Optimus, pioneer? Best buy, Home theater stuff?
Juancgenao (Threads | Answers)
He's kidding you. Breaking your balls.
tvad
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I have a circle of friends whose ears I trust...
Tbg (System | Threads | Answers)
When you state that you have a circle of friends whose ears you trust, I am going to assume that it means you have a circle of friends who share the same listening criteria and preferences as you. Therefore, more often than not, when a member of this circle offers an opinion of a component, then you can evaluate the opinion based on your commonality.

Having this commonality is helpful, but we should be careful of projecting our preferences onto others, and to further assuming our preferences are correct while the preferences of others are flawed.

Agreed?
tvad
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It would seem it is your preference that they do not project their preference.

Rrog (Answers)
I'm not going to play, but nice try.
tvad
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Tvad, Perhaps having a circle of friends whose ears you trust may mean you know their predilections.
Perhaps a group who listen for different aspects can actually over time bring out the whole system better than any one individual.
Uru975 (Threads | Answers)
Yes. That's exactly correct.

The other point I was attempting to make was to be careful not to assume the group's predilections are *correct* and applicable to all other listeners. For example, if the majority of a group of like minded listeners preferred Component A more than Component B, then therefore Component A must be superior. Not so. Component A may be preferable to this group, but this does not mean Component A will be preferable to everyone, or that it is superior.

This is where dogma vs. preference comes into play.
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