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what percentage of us really knows sound

Hi,been in audio preatty much all my live,play a few instruments myself, and it is chocking to me how many people in this hobbie, because they have a few Hi end gear
think that they can discern sonic diferences,or that their system sounds amazing, when 80% of time when I' listen to those fellows system, the sound is horrible, I'm talking about systems in the upper $50000, and this people come out, talking about soundstage, inner detail, and layers of sound cascading thru a huge soundscape, another thing is that, I'thought all this audiophile people where a group of well to do business people, that had money to speare,
when the truth is that most of audiophile people are broked
and dont' have their priorities toghether, been at many many, audiophile people's house, and it is sad, people with, high end systems, and no furniture,just bought a pair of speakers, $11000 retail and an Aiwa,component has more BASS THAN this speakers, affter spending more than $2500, on cables,think someone is taking advantage of the audiophile community
juancgenao
uru975
684 posts
 
Tvad, Perhaps having a circle of friends whose ears you trust may mean you know their predilections. As an example, have been reading Michael Fremmer and Art Dudley for quite a while, may not always agree with them, but their preferences come across clearly. The same may be for some of one's friends. They may listen to or for one aspect more than another one but that does not necessarily mean because they have trusted ears that they listen for the same things.
Perhaps a group who listen for different aspects can actually over time bring out the whole system better than any one individual.
To be fair to you you did say it was an assumption
tvad
9,467 posts
 
It would seem it is your preference that they do not project their preference.

Rrog (Answers)
I'm not going to play, but nice try.
tvad
9,467 posts
 
Tvad, Perhaps having a circle of friends whose ears you trust may mean you know their predilections.
Perhaps a group who listen for different aspects can actually over time bring out the whole system better than any one individual.
Uru975 (Threads | Answers)
Yes. That's exactly correct.

The other point I was attempting to make was to be careful not to assume the group's predilections are *correct* and applicable to all other listeners. For example, if the majority of a group of like minded listeners preferred Component A more than Component B, then therefore Component A must be superior. Not so. Component A may be preferable to this group, but this does not mean Component A will be preferable to everyone, or that it is superior.

This is where dogma vs. preference comes into play.
johnnyb53
3,490 posts
 
What percentage of us really knows sound?
Me. Just me.
pubul57
3,712 posts
 
Juancgenao, are you saying you are not getting good bass from your Merlins? That does not seem right, especially with your preamp which has quite "rich, organic" bass. I'm also suprised by Paulfolbrecht's comments regarding the Merlin's dynamic, as they seem to me to be very dynamic. Juancgenao, I would think your Joule/Quicksilver/Merlin system would be pretty darn good, so it is hard to understand how you could be so unhappy with it - something doesn't seem right. That being said, no stereo system I have ever heard sounds anything like live music, they are too different to really sound the same - but I accept that, I'm just looking to enjoy music as much as I can at home.
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