Eminent Technology ET-2 Tonearm Owners



Where are you? What mods have you done ?

I have been using these ET2's for over 9 years now.
I am still figuring them out and learning from them. They can be modified in so many ways. Bruce Thigpen laid down the GENIUS behind this tonearm over 20 years ago. Some of you have owned them for over 20 years !

Tell us your secrets.

New owners – what questions do you have ?

We may even be able to coax Bruce to post here. :^)

There are so many modifications that can be done.

Dressing of the wire with this arm is critical to get optimum sonics along with proper counterweight setup.

Let me start it off.

Please tell us what you have found to be the best wire for the ET-2 tonearm ? One that is pliable/doesn’t crink or curl. Whats the best way of dressing it so it doesn’t impact the arm. Through the spindle - Over the manifold - Below manifold ? What have you come up with ?
ct0517
Dover.
:Yes the outcomes are entirely different if the counterweight is fixed....so.
:We have established that it will not be the end of the world for the cartridge if the horizontal mass is increased, this by reference to other arms that are heavy.
:Countary to stated design goals yes.....so.
:While BT designed the cw arm to swing at frequencies below the core arm frequency, it does not neccesariy prove that using 2 springs will result in that criteria being met. It is almost certain that the use of three springs, as Chris did will push the frequency above core.
:I know that BT designed the arm to have the two spring systems, Cart and Counterweight. I just don't think that it is a good idea because they talk to eachother. Has anyone thought about why the CW spring(s) and their damping are so fussy to set up?
:Yes I pulled the resonance graph and math from the net. This because it explains the effects more clearly than the literature we regularly refer to here at my work. Those readers that understand the math will know why I chose a 6 times multiplier.
:My prime reason for fixing the counterweight is to restore the full bass drive. You have in an earlier post talked about not needing response below 30hz and that response in this region can be problematic, or words to that effect. I do want response in that range and yes it can be difficult to sort this area but with effort it can be done and the results are most rewarding.

:We are all biased, it is astonishingly arrogant to suggest that you are not.

Chris.
Agree the room is critical, same for the air feed.
ET 2.0 spindle versus ET 2.5 spindle

I am focusing on the spindle /counterweight. I have some info to share.

It can be difficult from pictures telling the differences between the ET 2.0 and 2.5.

This makes it easier. Pictured is the

ET 2.5 spindle

Significant differences in weight and diameter.
19 gms ET 2.5 versus 11 gms ET 2.0.

Chris,

About 19 grams with the aluminum inserts which are machined from bar stock. The 2.5 tubing has about the same wall thickness as the 2.0.
brucet

Richard/Dover/theKong/Frogman others.

I find this significant based on the recent damping conversations. I will have more information coming from Bruce when he has time to discuss. I feel this info will enlighten us. The only clue I have been given.

"horizontal resonance to be above 2-3Hz but at least 4 to 5Hz below the vertical resonance"



TWEAK

I have also come up with something that I believe is significant as far as sonics are concerned and requires only a one minute adjustment. This is based on only one listening session but is so easy to try I had to share it.

Loosen the end cap bolt (not the leaf spring bolt we have been discussing) just enough to lower the lead weights, so that they are positioned at the bottom half of the spindle; when looking at the arm from the gooseneck side. Once done tighten end cap again.

This increases the VTF significantly.

You will need to adjust by moving the lead farther out on the I Beam. A good thing.

Cheers
Loosen the end cap bolt (not the leaf spring bolt we have been discussing) just enough to lower the lead weights, so that they are positioned at the bottom half of the spindle; when looking at the arm from the gooseneck side.

Hi Ct,

In all the photos I have seen on the Walker turntable, the counterweight set-up was below horizontal. So, I suppose that is intentional and offers some advantages, at least in that design.

I must apologize that due to my schedule, it will take me a while to have the time to do a thorough comparison on the counterweight set-ups in my system. I will report it here at once when I can complete the test!
As we have been discussing the pros and cons of the decoupled counterweight on the ET, I have this question on my mind (admittedly a non-technical one) for a long time!

The ET uses leaf springs to decouple the counterweight so the arm doesn’t “see” the additional weight! To my thinking, this can only be possible if the counterweight actually doesn’t move during the initial movement (milliseconds?) of the arm, due to the compliance of the leaf spring. Then, after the arm has moved for a certain range, the counterweight would need to start “rebounding” to follow the arm.

If that is true, then would it create some delayed effect that could be detrimental to the tracking?

Or is my reasoning totally false?