Capacitor log Mundorf Silver in Oil


I wished I could find a log with information on caps. I have found many saying tremendous improvement etc. but not a detailed account of what the changes have been. I have had the same speakers for many years so am very familiar with them. (25+ years) The speakers are a set of Klipsch Lascala's. They have Alnico magnets in the mids and ceramic woofers and tweeters. The front end is Linn LP12 and Linn pre amp and amp. The speaker wire is 12 gauge and new wire.

I LOVE these speakers around 1 year ago they started to sound like garbage. As many have said they are VERY sensitive to the components before them. They are also showing what I think is the effect of worn out caps.

There are many out here on these boards I know of that are using the Klipsch (heritage) with cheaper Japanese electronics because the speakers are cheap! (for what they can do) One thing I would recommend is give these speakers the best quality musical sources you can afford. There is a LOT to get out of these speakers. My other speakers are Linn speakers at around 4k new with Linn tri-wire (I think about 1k for that) and the Klipsch DESTROY them in my mind. If you like "live feel" there is nothing like them. In fact it shocks me how little speakers have improved in 30 years (or 60 years in the Khorns instance)

In fact I question Linn's theory (that they have proved many times) that the source is the most important in the Hi-Fi chain. Linn's theory is top notch source with lessor rest of gear including speakers trumps expensive speakers with lessor source. I think is right if all things are equal but Klipsch heritage are NOT equal! They make a sound and feel that most either LOVE or hate. (I am in the LOVE camp and other speakers are boring to me)

So here goes and I hope this helps guys looking at caps in the future. Keep in mind Klipsch (heritage Khorns Belle's and Lascala's especially) are likely to show the effects of crossover changes more then most.

1 The caps are 30 years old and
2 the speakers being horn driven make changes 10x times more apparent.

Someone once told me find speakers and components you like THEN start to tweak if needed. Don't tweak something you not in love with. Makes sense to me.

So sound
Record is Let it Be (Beatles)
The voices are hard almost sounds like a worn out stylus.
Treble is very hard. I Me Mine has hard sounding guitars. Symbals sound awful. Everything has a digital vs. analog comparison x50! Paul's voice not as bad as John's and George's. Voices will crack.

different lp
Trumpets sound awful. Tambourine terrible. Bass is not great seems shy (compared to normal) but the bad caps draw soooooo much attention to the broken up mid range and hard highs that are not bright if anything it seems the highs are not working up to snuff. I have went many times to speaker to make sure tweeters are even working.

All in all they sound like crap except these Klipsch have such fantastic dynamics that even when not right they are exciting!

Makes me wonder about the people who do not like them if they are hearing worn out caps and cheap electronics? Then I can see why they do not like them! If I did not know better from 25+ years of ownership that would make sense.

For the new crossover I have chosen Mundorf Silver in Oil from what I have read and can afford. I want a warm not overly detailed sound as Klipsch already has lots of detail and does not need to be "livened up" they need lush smooth sounding caps. Hope I have made the right choice?

When the crossover is in I will do a initial impression on same lp's. Right now it goes from really bad (on what may be worn vinyl) to not as bad but NOT great on great vinyl. (I know the quality of the vinyl because tested on other speakers Linn)

The new caps are Mundorf Silver in Oil and new copper foil inductors are coming. I will at the same time be rewiring the speakers to 12 guage from the lamp cord that PWK put in. PWK was a master at getting very good sound often with crap by today's standards components.

The choice of speakers would be a toss up now depending on what I am listening to. Klipsch vastly more dynamic but if the breaking up of the sound becomes to much to effect enjoyment the Linn would be a better choice on that Lp. If I could I would switch a button back and forth between speakers depending on song and how bad the break-up sound was bothering me.

volleyguy
Will be able to test caps soon with at least 4 different vintage tube amps if not more.

Lost my mind over vintage. I want spare parts for a lifetime.

I had heard only new tube and SS gear.

Read a good link on a guitar amp site on why vintage sounds better. Points were.

Transformers now are wound different using a plastic core. Is this correct? Anyone know? Paper bobbins opposed to plastic.

Point to point wiring
Circuit boards act as a capacitor. Is this correct? The site said only point to point wiring does not do this and they prove it by having two wires run in opposite direction.

Of course they talked about caps and resistors as well being better.
Jody/Volleyguy, before you "lose you mind over vintage," kindly return to me the 10 teflon & PIO caps that I lent to you for testing long ago. Thanks, Dave
Sorry Dave they will be mailed within one hour. I "really" did want to hear them in the electronics. I am sorry for the delay but testing caps can be expensive. I was never going to keep Dave's caps when the amp blew that slowed things down. One can see from e-bay my buying of 3 tube vintage amps but of course they are Dave's caps and will be mailed today. I will be listing the Mundorfs at 50% off new on e-bay today. So if anyone wants to try Mundorf's e-mail me before and you can have them.

I have decided not to fix up the Linn speakers and now for sure do not need the parts.

Also today another Linn Klout amp and pre-amp. (Kairn) I have already sold one so whatever I have said about thinking vintage tube gear that great and Duelund that great one can see that it is no bull as you can see the results for sale.
Mundorf Supreme 10uf
Mundorf Supreme 3.3uf
Mundorf Supreme 2.2uf
Mundorf Silver in Oil 2.2uf

All just one of each.
Good deal for any buyer. I have them listed at 50% and include free shipping. I have not put all on yet but will.

Testing caps is an expensive hobby overall. The Sonicaps sold for around 50% new. If one does buy them from me you will not suffer further depreciation.

Dave your caps are on their way.

I did really want to hear them though. I am very curious about the teflon in electronics. Oh well, another time. The Russians at least you can play with without wasting a ton of money.

Buying caps in not like buying an amp used. You spend a lot testing and end up with just one and the others have not much value.

I have learned when buying a speaker I would want to know what the crossover is made of. A complicated one could break ya!