Why my system has detail but no body & warm vocal?

An integrated amp is a good starting point however if you want a full bodied sound (with warmth) as you descibe, you have to think big! Lose the Rotel int. and get separates! such as a nice tube preamp and a big powerful SS amp. Maybe invest in big, full range floor standing speakers. I have this type of setup and regardless of what type of music I listen to, it never lacks in body, warmth or musicality. Then tweak the system to "your" liking afterwards.

I also have the 602 s3 speakers and rotel ra-02 amp and 02 cd player. The most important thing is the placement of the speakers. The tweeters are a bit bright. I use some older no-name multi stranded speaker cable for the tweaters. For stands i use my own diy made solid brick stands. This really kicks donkey. And yes there is cement between the bricks.

The other thing that you should consider upgrading is your stock CDP. No stock CDP short of perhaps a Meitner, Accuphase or other equally expensive deck will have a warm, full-bodied sound.

Both Phd and Sean have hit upon the most important factor in buying and amp, that is output impedance. Lower is better and you probably will not find it in an integrated. If you want the amp to be able to drive any speaker load, you have to think "lots of output transistors". 16 per channel is about right for complete independence from load effects, but the design is also key. Amps with zero negative global feedback tend to be thin sounding and cannot control the bass. Look for an amp that has low output impedance, reasonable power (>200W/chnl) and some kind of global feedback.

Audioengr: My old Perreaux's use zero global feedback ( according to the manual ) and are anything but "thin" sounding. The bass on these things "pound with authority", hence my use of them for subwoofer amps. If you do a search in the archives pertaining to Perreaux PMF-3150's, you'll find others using them for woofer / sub-woofer duty on several low impedance multiple driver speaker arrays. On top of all of that, these are Mosfet designs, which are typically not known for being "bass hounds". Sean
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