Believers VS. nonbelievers???? GEEzzzzz


Curious how certain products elicit praise from one body and "I can't believe you fall for that snake oil..." from others.
I have a hard time believing some of the stuff (the WORST example is the "Tice Clock" from the early 90's, that you just had to have in the same room!!!)but in general, some of the protesters are ranting on "general priciples" and never tried the stuff/thing in question...(I myself was in that category on power cords till I tried one) and even if they did, it may not have been effective on thier particular system, but just what was needed on someone elses.
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What I am trying to say in a half formed way is that an honest concern about a product and trying to help guide other away from the "stupid mods" is a difficult path to walk. And since we are all experts and know all there is to know about "audiophilia" maybe we could be more modest in damning stuff others think is worth doing. Rather consider that it may be a path of exploration we choose not to follow now. To say "I haven't explored that but I don't think it's worth trying" vs "you are crazy to think that works and a fool for trying it." is a BIG gap.
Any comments?????
elizabeth
I remember borrowing a Tice clock many years ago after having read Michael Fremer's rave review in TAS. I found the whole thing absolutely crazy and did not believe a word of it. To my surprise I did percieve, with the thing plugged in, exactly what was mentioned above: A better soundstage and tad more silence in the background. And you know, what I decided then: I truly prefered not to believe my ears, put it away as an audiosuggestion, ignored the postive comments of my female companion and gave the clock back. So here ideology won over empiricism in the sense, what CANNOT be real, simply IS not real. No, you don't have to pray to the audiogods for me. I've learnt a thing or two in the meantime. But I thought I'll bring this post, because I feel that many of the "scientists" here possibly still function the way I did then, you know: possibly golden eared, but ideologically tinned over.
hey albert, i want info on the black-box yer mfr-friend uses.

thanks, doug s.

ps - i unnerstand that tice cryogenically treated his *clock*, & currently uses cryogenics on his present products. mike vansevers is also a firm believer in cryogenics; i believe there are others out there who also use it. if i can sweet-talk some dr's here at the nih to let me use their -90f freezers, i may czech it out...

Genetics. A percentage of the population is born with perfect pitch. Yet another percentage is clueless about grokking music. A subset of those end up as uptight, pedantic, republican, textbook-only engineers ( as opposed to kewl geeks :) who can't _feel_ music. Every seven seconds a baby is born without soul. Won't you please give generously and help those with this sad affliction....