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The instructions I read when I recieved mine state that if your into rock,heavy metal you need to bi-amp these speakers. I earlier asked what are people useing successfully with these speakers ,and see nowhere that users are bi-amping. I dont feel Im geting the best out of mine thus the reason for asking for help. Has anyone run a tube amp for the top, and solid state for the bottom. Im considering getting the RM 200 for the top and maybe Belles 150A HR for the bottom. Or Bel Canto for the bottom, or Halo for the bottom. See what I mean? Im not sure ,please advise if you would. Thanks Map1
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I used a Bryston 14B SST with jumpers with my VR4 Gen III HSE speakers. I listen to plenty of heavy metal, and I've never felt I was missing anything. Now I use a VAC Phi 110/110 tube amp and still don't feel I'm missing anything. A search of the threads will reveal many owners of the VR4 Gen III speakers using as wide a spectrum of amplifiers as one can imagine with great results. Your comments make me wonder. Describe the rest of your system. Are the VR4 Gen IIIs new or used? Describe what you mean by "missing something".
Thanks for responding. Im useing a Belles 21a tube pre to a belles 150a HR. Mid priced sony cd player, but mainly want to use them for vynle with my Nottingham spacedeck tt. It sounds Ok but Im looking for liquid, image float with more dynamics. Im prepaired to invest more at this time to achieve that, but wanted to get with you guys, and gails first to get some input. They are new and should be broken in about now. Had them about 5 months.
Belles 150A HR...is this the 150A Hot Rod amp? The Belles should
provide plenty of pure clean power to drive the VR4s, although the 150A
Reference is the better amp. What tubes are you using in the Belles pre?

Honestly, I'd look at your speaker placement first. This can have the
most profound impact on sound. Describe your room size, and
placement of the speakers...distance from rear and side walls...distance
to listening chair...distance between speakers.
Yes I mentioned that they were new and should be about broken in now as Ive had them for about 5 months. Dont get me wrong, I love these babies. But Im not getting the liquid image float I want. I beleive it to be the electronics which is why the ?. what is everyone else useing to get that.Its a pretty large room. Maybe 25x35 or so and I have moved the speakers around forward backwards, in out, you know. Im thinking of going with a tube amp on top and the Belles hot rod or Bel Canto on the bottom. It sounds like the tube amp you have is able to drive the entire speaker. Am I right?
I was wondering why you changed from the big Bryston, to the tube amp. Because I was considering a Bryston for driveing the bottom half>
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