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Warrenh,what do you run for a set.i may look into that soon just for the fun of it.these speakers are made for this.would like to compare the set to the vac.Undertow,where do you get the traps,how many do you need in a room and where do you place them mostly??sounds like you have the room dialed.i put on A3 the other day and i have never been bathed in better bass,simply the smoothest bass i have ever heard. can't see it getting any better,it was soooo cooool.where do you learn room treatment,or who do you call???? thks

2bigears, you can get 2 pretty cheap 4 foot by 2 foot traps that are 4" thick from Gikacoustics.com.. they are basic but most effective, but if not done up right very ugly. They are cheap though and use the whole corning fiberglass formula and the acoustic fabric all the room treatment costly companies use. These are designed to hang from celings and go kitty corner in the corners just as well, they are tuff to hang and get set though, best thing is to call them. Also, a big company that does more stuff but is a lot more money is the realtraps.com which are very popular and on their website many examples and formulas are given with pictures, honestly the smaller the room the more acoustic treatment in general you need due to the overall boundaries causing havoc on your speakers response, but bigger rooms can take care of a lot themselves due to the large amounts of air and space from sidewalls and things.. its all dependent and important in different ways to different rooms, depending on many factors including how high the ceilings are, and what kinda floors, and how many doors, windows, corners, etc... Rivesaudio.com is the a company that can develope entire room systems using several companies and these devices to completley tune your room probably within 95% of perfection, however super expensive just to get the consultation from them with no products or labor being bought even. I simply took the overall formulas that I see people use and are given by these companies and made some common sense judgements to get things somewhat dialed in much better... I would say I am about 60% good on the room but can get about 90% once I get a dedicated somewhat sealed off space, with many more corner wedges, traps, diffusors etc... Good luck, just remember a studio pays thousands to treat a sound room with good reason, there are huge advances, so someone can say "So and So studio uses these speakers" and now I can say so what, cause yeah they are probably very good but sound that way cause there are very excellent monitoring / mastering rooms they are setup in.

thks Undertow.things to think about,get ready for the cold weather and warm music.

I'm driving my Def Pros with a Red Wine Clari-T on top and a Pass Aleph 30 on the woofers. Very nice. Yesterday I ordered Vinnie's Signature 30 amp which I expect to be a giant improvement. Apparently I'm not the only one who knows about this new unit. It's only been available for a few weeks and there is already a waiting list.
As for your VAC amp, I'd have to guess it is pretty near the ideal product to be driving Definitions. I have no experience with it myself but I can recall universal rave reviews running for years on that amp with the only limitation being power output which should certainly not be a problem with your new speakers. Congratulations.