sub for $3500 or less

I just don't understand anyone buying a sub today other that a Velodyne DD series. Okay, maybe some other sub, but mating it with the Velodyne SMS-1 or other room correction system should be a must.

Knollbrent, regardless of how good the Piega is, there is nothing in the Piega that is going to fix the bass peaks in your room from the Piega sub. And you will definitely have them!

I have a DD-12 in my 2 channel setup and I had always fought bass issues in my room. The digital room correction in the DD-12 has given me incredibly powerful and fast bass without any boom. It only took me about an hour and a half to use the room correction right out of the box. I couldn't believe the peaks in the curve when I first hooked up the DD-12. But the room correction software has given me a virtually flat response down to 22 hz. They have a free upgrade (I haven't bothered) that has an "automatic" correction mode which would make things even easier and quicker to use if one chose to use it.

I realize that there are many good subs available, but the ROOM can make even the best sub sound bad. I am sure the Peiga sub would be fine with your c-10 ltds, but believe me, you will never get out of the Piega sub what a DD series will do for you (unless you use a SMS-1 or other room correction.) Just my humble opinion.

SVS PB12 Plus/2

That's my point...use an SMS-1 with any sub you get. It will add 3x to its value and performance in your system.
Ted

Trying to optimize deep bass in the 15hz-30hz region without a frequency analyzer and digital EQ such as found in the Velodyne is like piloting a submarine without sonar. Without such tools you can spend months playing around with subwoofer setup and still be uncertain where you're at. The system allows phase shifts in 15 degree increments, the parametric EQ has ample headroom to allow notches to be stacked up high to eliminate bulges/depressions in frequency response, the servo control can be adjusted to loosen or tighten the bass for HT or 2 CH mode, cross-over & rolloff is adjustable in fine increments, and you can see it all on your TV or PC plotted in a graphical frequency sweep. Without these kind of tools it won't be easy to harness those long 20' to 50' wavelengths in the deep bass region...

Dave

I bought 2 Revel B15 subs. I am very happy with them. I started with one and then added another. One is not bad but two are much better. They are hard to tune. I always tune a little bit less than what I think it should be. Then I wait and listen for a few days. It is very easy to add too much sub. I think you will find the sub adds another dimension to the sound. It really is needed in home theater.