Jazz for aficionados

***** Study the origins of Bebop, then come back. They were studying everyday what the classical composers of their time were doing.*****

This is what is called 'wishful thinking' .

(1) Name me some classical music that you can point to and say, "this is the origin of be-bop".   If anything, 20th century Classical Composers stole from Jazz.

(2) Jazz was around long before Be-bop.    Study that, then come back.

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Very sorry about spelling. 😱

I know , you know, all those men were genius.

I will have to get back with you. 

They were here listening and learning in music theory. Diminished cords, Sevenths, triads, all the nuts and bolts. 

Frogman, "professional athletes" practice, every "professional" practices. I made a statement that was taken way out of context, and we're still off to the races about that statement, although it was a very significant statement.

Let me expound on the important elements of that statement. You can not practice "improvisation"; every night that he was on the stage in front of a crowd, he was practicing because every night he was improvising.

I was talking about one uniquely gifted individual who had mastered his very complex instrument some time ago. Since he was performing three nights a week, there was absolutely no need for some kind of ritualistic practicing. Everything he was playing was in his head; this was music he needed to play, and get approval of, not from some teacher at "Julee yard", but from "his public", the people who knew him, and came to see and hear him.

I have never liked what's called "free jazz", it sounds like someone just playing a bunch of notes very fast, but when he played a lot of music fast, it was coherent and I understood it. The only thing I can compare to what he was playing is "Bird's Best Bop"; no matter how fast, and how much music Bird plays, it's coherent. Other musicians can attempt this, but they always fail, he was doing it.

This is as good as I can get in clarifying a unique situation, with a unique individual.





Enjoy the music.

O-10 it is not a good idea to bring personal relationships into this thread.   You knew this player and he was your friend.   The rest of us didn't know him, and we look at him  in an entirely 'objective' manner.

When I posted a guy I went to school with, you said he sucked.  I didn't protest because I always thought he was somewhat of  a noise-maker myself.

As pertains to all outstanding disagreements, I have declared victory, so, as Jafant says, Lets get back to the music.

Cheers