Jazz for aficionados

Frogman, "professional athletes" practice, every "professional" practices. I made a statement that was taken way out of context, and we're still off to the races about that statement, although it was a very significant statement.

Let me expound on the important elements of that statement. You can not practice "improvisation"; every night that he was on the stage in front of a crowd, he was practicing because every night he was improvising.

I was talking about one uniquely gifted individual who had mastered his very complex instrument some time ago. Since he was performing three nights a week, there was absolutely no need for some kind of ritualistic practicing. Everything he was playing was in his head; this was music he needed to play, and get approval of, not from some teacher at "Julee yard", but from "his public", the people who knew him, and came to see and hear him.

I have never liked what's called "free jazz", it sounds like someone just playing a bunch of notes very fast, but when he played a lot of music fast, it was coherent and I understood it. The only thing I can compare to what he was playing is "Bird's Best Bop"; no matter how fast, and how much music Bird plays, it's coherent. Other musicians can attempt this, but they always fail, he was doing it.

This is as good as I can get in clarifying a unique situation, with a unique individual.





Enjoy the music.

O-10 it is not a good idea to bring personal relationships into this thread.   You knew this player and he was your friend.   The rest of us didn't know him, and we look at him  in an entirely 'objective' manner.

When I posted a guy I went to school with, you said he sucked.  I didn't protest because I always thought he was somewhat of  a noise-maker myself.

As pertains to all outstanding disagreements, I have declared victory, so, as Jafant says, Lets get back to the music.

Cheers

Rok, go back to my post 02-27-2016, 11: 49 AM

Frogman, FWIW, there is something condescending, I think, when some one feels that he needs to protect jazz history and it's fans from misinformation put forward by some folks, especially those who's motivation is as transparent as Rok and Orpheus. They are what they are, it is readily apparent to the most casual observer, and they are not going to change.

Its too bad that all of the great information that you and Learsfool can convey to the more pedestrian jazz lovers will be lost unless a new thread is created. The value of this thread is greatly diminished by its shear length and the rancor. Trying to find the gems is, forgive me, nothing less obnoxious that looking for pearls in pig shit.  Let Orpheus and Rok alone to their conversations in this thread should they continue to wish to do so (and I don't know why, or for how long, they would). 

I also agree with O-10 ,that his mystery musician friend , after years of practice , could hit a time where he was firing on all cylinders and also due to playing regularly , was able to move forward without practice. 

How long would that " zone"last ?????????? 

O gets a little cranky sometimes, but he would not make it up. 

Purple panther piss; I had to look that up, after I stopped laughing.