Curious, what do you think of this?:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=61k627ElDLg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UM4TOcDuC14
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=61k627ElDLg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UM4TOcDuC14
Jazz for aficionados
Curious, what do you think of this?: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=61k627ElDLg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UM4TOcDuC14 |
Frogman - I’ll comment here briefly on a couple of things from your latest posts. Will get back afterwards on the new links you included. 1) Pleased to read we share great esteem for arrangers. In the statement from me that you quote, might be more appropriate had I said, "the ROLE of the arranger...." since, as you know, it’s not always a separate individual but sometimes the actual composer, one of the musicians or the producer (George Martin comes to mind). Regardless, the arrangement can certainly make or break a piece or take it over the top in a good way. Gil Evans on Sketches of Spain is a GREAT example. Someone on A’gon a (year?) ago posted notes that were written at the time of the SoS session(s). Some studio employee - an eye witness - documented at least one of the sessions in great detail...what people were wearing, the personnel, who played what, interactions between Miles, Evans and others. It’s a great read. I’ll look around for it but you do too. It is well worth it. A nice word picture of that time. 2) re Black Light Syndrome. Agree with you for the most part: an inconsistent effort by some talented musicians. Rocker Steve is over the top in a not so good way - esp. on track 1 and the closer. This brings up the matter of "taste" and artistry, I think - factors that derive from both objective and subjective elements but, to me, constitute a 3rd area of evaluation. See my 9/22 9:19PM post (unless bored with the topic!). Honestly, while the sonics of BLS are very good, there are only a few tracks I listen to repeatedly for the the sake of the music: 3) Duende & 6) Book of Hours. Both display some flamenco influence. To a much lesser extent, I revisit 4) title track & 5) Falling in Circles. If the entire recording were up to the quality of 3 & 6, it would be a stellar album. Situation Dangerous, the second by this trio, is also inconsistent from my perspective. I don’t think the sonics are quite as good, either. Seems little less airy and spacious. By the way, not that I'm that big a Bozzio fan but I will say I think he is the real deal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcerKvzcyvQ&ab_channel=CalVid Comments on the FZ composition performed above (The Black Page) in this mini-bio of another great drummer http://www.lastudiomusicians.info/vinniecolaiuta.htm I will check out those links you posted next. Good chatting. |
Dixie Dregs - yeah, okay. Excellent musicianship. REALLY good. Musically it’s a little boring (well the bit sampled here) BUT I’ll listen to more by them. Great drumming. Heard of Steve Morse, of course. On the other hand I never listened to them as a band! Always mixed them up with Dexys Midnight Runners and that horrible hit THEY had so avoided ’em. Totally mixed up and mistaken on my part, of course. Thanks for the links. Pat Martino? - FREAKING A!!! Why was I not told about this sooner!!! Those tracks are sublime. To me, more interesting than anything from Weather Report I can call to mind. Those are some complex (time signatures?). Not just technical excellence (esp. Pat’s guitar and his drummer, Kenwood Dennard) but somebody actually gifted with a sense of MELODY. THANK YOU much. If Joyous Lake draws me back for repeated listening, it’ll be a buy. Found it and saved it to my albums on Spotify. Listening to the whole thing now as I do some paperwork this AM. Best thing that's happened so far today. |
I had a feeling that being a guitarphile you would like Martino. Probably my favorite guitarist ever; any genre. Keep in mind that those clips are from his "fusion" period. Martino is a bebopper (post-bop) all the way and hence the melodic sense you heard in those clips. Considered "God" by many jazz guitarists he has a very extensive and diverse discography; check it out. I posted this recently; astounding!: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cyqJwJzGB0g I must say, I think this is the first time I have heard The Dregs referred to as a little boring. Might explain why I consider some of Stevens' playing over the top. Here's a couple more: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IrL4R9x9A14 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MfwsR1shno8 Btw, I had a feeling that the subject of Zappa would come up. Colaiuta is a monster drummer who leans more to the fusion side of things. |