The Palladian-A step beyond

Dear fleib, ''value judgment'' are not truth functional. That is why

we are allowed to like blonds or brunettes or whatever cart we

like. So what is subjective or objective (aka ''scientific'') is difficult

to practice in our hobby. Anyway one can easilly discriminate

between those who like and dislike Dertonarm. Those who don't

like the guy use terms as ''innovation'', ''patent'' ,''intellectual property''

  etc. in order to denay his merits. There is however  the term 

''craftsmanship'' which we do use in the context of the retips and also

by those ''grandmasters'' like Takeda, Ikeda,  Allearts, etc. by

 whom we don't care if they ever made any  patent application.

As we know or can know Dertonarm designed and produced

Apolite TT, Arche headshell, Uni Din, two tonearms and 4 MC

carts. His most rigurous critic, the Mexican however never

produced anything. What he claims is desigend and made by his

Sanco Panza. Those who are familiar with the Mexican oracle

 know this by the so called ''inside information''. Your ''scietific

approach'' is alas not relevant because you have no experience

with any of Dertonarm's products so you can only guess or

 speculate about them in the best philosophical tradition with

 many ''ifs''. 

Addition, I forget to mention the clear diffrence between the

dramatis personae in my last post. Dertonaram is without any

question an professioanal manufacturer while Fleib and Raul are

amateurs like the most of us.

Nandric,

I think you would have been better off letting this go instead of reminding me that I am not in the business, not a professional, which also means I'm not in competition with Acoustical Systems.  I can't remember having any interaction with Dertonarm on this forum or anywhere else, and have nothing against him personally, and I wasn't aware of his apparent sordid history as a cheat and con man. This is well documented with testimony, in Raul's link:

http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?6502-Refund-problem

I also wasn't aware, but suspected that the principal of the company, one
Axinia Schäfer, is or was his wife.  This is to avoid past liability claims? If one believes these posts on Whatsbestforum, Daniel Brakemeier AKA Dietrich Brakemeier looks like a moral sociopath, someone thinking they are above judgment and believes their own lies.

Despite this, I suggested that the cart should be judged on its merits. You, on the other hand suggested that I shouldn't post on Raul's MM/MI thread because I, at the time, did not own enough qualifying carts. This is despite the fact that in the past I owned a TK10 MLII, Kisiki Blue, M20FL Super, and numerous others -  currently an AT15/20SS, 980LZ, Z1/SAS, Genesis 1000, etc.

As a past mfg. I submit that any company is constantly on trial in the court of public perception. Counselor, your last posts do not help your friend.

Sincerely,

Dear Fleib, ''the counselor'' which post ''do not help (his) friend''

is public so everyone is entitled to comment. As a ''counsellor''

I don't think that your witness (aka Raul) will make your post

very convincing. Your pretended neutrality regarding Dertonarm

is also not very convincing because of your insinuations that

Dertoarm is a ''moral sociopath''. But more to the point is the

fact that you has nothing to say about my arguments. This is

usual in your reactions to my post. You deed not deny to have

never seen or used any of Dertonarms products. What value

should we put on your comments on his products then? Then

I mentioned ''craftsmanship'' in the context of your interpretation

of intellectual property. I teached intelllectul property for 30

years. I even mentioned ''know how'' which in no way imply

patent as such . You also deed not deny my statement that

Dertonarm is a professional manufacturer  while you and Raul

 are amateurs. I hope for you that you  will be never involved in

whatever lawsuit without an councellor . With your kind of

''argumentation''  you will have no chance.