Sorry Al. You put your last post up while I was typing mine, so I didn't see it. You're much better at explaining this type of thing than I am, so I'm sure you would have had to clarify some of my posts anyway.
SE vs Balanced volume
With my tube amp, when I switch between RCA & XLR, the XLR is louder. With my SS amp, when I switch between RCA & XLR, the volume is the same. The specs for the SS amp state that the amp is fully balanced. Here’s a photo of the innards behind the RCA & XLR inputs of the SS amp. XLR is on the left, RCA on the right, the yellow wires go to the external toggle switch. Why the different results? Thx.
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because the signal coming in on the RCA connector together with the inverse of that signal provided at the output of the INA134 enables the input board to be provided with a balanced pair of signals.That means one phase only going to the "balanced" input board is going through the INA134, as it’s clearly just a single ended output, pin 6 on the data sheet. If that's the way it’s no wonder some think the balanced sound better. This should be called fake single ended. Why sacrifice sound quality of the rca for the sake of the same gain. http://circuits.datasheetdir.com/164/INA134-pinout.jpg I can see it using the AD8476. http://www.mouser.in/images/microsites/low-power-diff-con-fig01.jpg Cheers George |
No problem, Sfall. Explanations stated from a second perspective can only add clarity. Georgehifi 3-12-2017Some fully balanced architectures will not work properly unless they are provided with a balanced pair of signals. For example, some or all ARC Reference series power amplifiers, which do not provide RCA connectors, are designed such that only half of their balanced signal path will see a signal if their XLR connector is provided with a signal on pin 2 but pin 3 is grounded. In that situation the result would be a drastic reduction in power capability, as well as various adverse sonic consequences. So in this case there may be a more important reason for the approach I’ve envisioned than just adding gain for the RCA input. As Sfall said, if my hypothesis is correct the use of the INA134 can be thought of as an adapter. And it could be viewed as analogous to the many designs having unbalanced internal signal paths in which a balanced pair of output signals is created by means of an op amp configured as an inverter. Is that an ideal approach? No. But it is a simple and inexpensive way of providing a feature that can be useful in some systems. Regards, -- Al |
@steakster What is this amp??? That you got rid of Artemis 6c33c monoblocks for, I am intrigued. http://img.usaudiomart.com/uploads/large/1369416-cr-developments-artemis-mono-blocks.jpg http://img.usaudiomart.com/uploads/large/1369418-cr-developments-artemis-mono-blocks.jpg Cheers George |
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