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HELP AFTER MY MODS, My tweeters are subdued and weak-

So I have a pair of Mirage M1 speakers, I changed the caps in the crossovers to Jantzen Superior Z (for the tweeters) and standard z for the mids and bass.
 
I also changed the internal cabling to Supra Classic 2.5.

First Impressions-  Not burned in yet
The highs are there but really recessed in the background. Theres a song I reference and it has a steel guitar solo, I can bearly hear it through the vocals because its seems recessed so far back.

SO HERES THE QUESTION- Is that a symptom of unburned in cables and or caps, or is that just what Supra cables give you?

When I changed the internal cabling a few years back on the same model speaker, I used DH LABS t14 Silver plated cable, This had the opposite effect, it was super bright and fast, but it smoothed out and the brightness relaxed, leaving a lot of detail but not so much your ears bled.

But here its the opposite, its dull on the top end and the vocals kind of take over and blur out the top end.

idahifi
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imhififan
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I did replace two of three of the mid-range caps, as well as three of the five tweeter caps.
Can you let us know which caps you replaced? the value of the caps ( ie: 2.2uF 100V)?
idahifi OP
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So here's a new development.......

The rolled of tweeter sound has returned...

It only happens when I use the Tara labs temporal continuum speaker cables. I can't believe I didn't catch that before.. 

I really love these speaker cables, there very good, but using them with this new set up, the highs sound terrible.

With using just plain old zip cord I get better highs than the temporal continuums. 

Anyone have any idea why?
 
Next thing is what cables to replace these with, I don't want zip cord for my main speaker cables, I want something as good as the Tara's but without the weird tweeter issue.

Also , Tim not to beat a dead horse, but my bottom end is a little booty almost muddy, would this also improve with break in or is it a result of the supra cables, do you think?

Thanks for all your input, I can tell the sound is already smoother than before and more lively. Excited to hear it after a few weeks of playing it.

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imhififan
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With using just plain old zip cord I get better highs than the temporal continuums. Anyone have any idea why?
What setting on the dials? on the highest?
erik_squires
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idahifi,

Consistent with my posts.

Best,

E
timlub
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Hi Sean, Well since its your thread and you asked,  I'll go a bit off subject and answer your question.  There are some general rules about cables, that overall hold true... overall, but not entirely...  Heavy gauge solid core transfers bass better, lighter stranded cables transfers high end better. Of course a lot of other things affect this.... wire coating (skin effect)  purity and type of copper or coating on copper,  is there a braid or only multiple individual strands...etc etc etc.  Myself,  My favorite cables were made of 38 gauge cotton coated litz.... Multiple stands were used in several different braids twist etc until we found the right mix.... final result was about a 9 guage cable... this was a very pleasing, yet detailed cable.  In your woofers, I would probably use the heavy belden on the woofer, then make sure that you use one of the nice standed wires on your tweeter.     
As far as your speaker cables, I'm sorry, but I have no experience with the Tara Labs,  that's why I gave a very basic elementary cable explanation,  to help you discover what might make a difference in your system.  Next,  don't throw in the towel yet,  your speakers will continue to go through minor changes for quite awhile.  I hope this all helps,  Tim




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