2. tech-talk
  3. 131262-68132

Why don't amplifier Companies use high end fuses?

My equipment - Raven Integrated Reflection MK2 tube amp 58wpc. / Lumin A-1 DAC Streamer / Synology NAS / Isotex Aquarius Power Conditioner / Furutech Rhodium Plug / Sonus Faber Amati Homage Tradition speakers.  

I have read thousands of comments on upgraded fuses improving the performance of sound.  I am very open minded but not sold either way.  So, the question I have is....if fuses were so important, than why don't Amplifier companies all install them as OEM equipment?  To me, if they are as good as people say, that would provide companies who use them a competitive advantage?  

Every High End Audio store I go to in Phoenix have told me it does not make a difference and is a waste of money.  For the record, I have fuses purchased at an automotive store for under $10 and I think my sound is awesome.  The Company that built my amp tested the Synergistic Fuses and he emphatically said there was no difference.  

If I were to try a fuse for fun, given my equipment, what would your recommendation be to try?  
willgolf
cleeds
2,065 posts
 
kosst_amojan
.... you can’t measure the difference a fuse makes. It’s because it makes no difference. Those who claim it does bare the obligation to prove it and so far there’s no proof.
Pardon me, but no one here owes you anything at all. No one here is obligated to prove anything to you at all. No one here is obligated to conform to your notions.

I don't know why I keep doing it. It's like some weird compulsion. Maybe my life doesn't have enough fantasy and fiction. I should probably go back to reading Dune.


joecasey
365 posts
 
kosst_amojan

I've made this point before, but I'll make it again. Anything that can be heard can be measured. I don't understand why some of you think that there are some characteristics in audio that don't have a measurement signature, but that isn't the case. You people attribute qualities to a fuse that most definitely would reveal themselves through a spectrum analyzer. But they don't. One can only conclude that's because it makes no difference at all.
This explains how components with same measurements can sound different.  Thanks Julian Hirsch!
geoffkait's avatar
geoffkait
14,147 posts
 
Whoa! What? Did he just say that? Julian Hirsch famously said all amps that measure the same sound about the same. Not different. Hel-loo!
kosst_amojan
2,095 posts
 
@cleeds 
Then don't get upset when somebody calls you a liar for passing opinion as fact when you can't back it up. 

@joecasey 
Geoff down there is right. Two amps with identical measurements will sounds exactly the same. In manufacturing that's called quality control. 
cleeds
2,065 posts
 
kosst_amojan
@cleeds
Then don’t get upset when somebody calls you a liar for passing opinion as fact when you can’t back it up.
Sorry, but no on this site owes you scientific proof of anything. That doesn’t grant you permission to abuse them on this forum. Of course, that hasn’t stopped you in the past. That’s why moderators have deleted so many of your posts here. You might want to read this group's terms of service.
More to discover