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gdhal
jon_5912 - I hate to pile on but in addition to having an unbearable personality, kait is probably high end audio message boards’ most recognizable charlatan. I say if for the benefit of anyone who’s new to the hobby and isn’t familiar with the teleportation tweak, etc.

+1

some synonyms, in no particular order:

delusional, fictitious, parasitic, liar, voodoo, sarcastic

>>>>Earth to gdhal - Are you looking in the mirror, spaceman? 👨‍🚀

Oh my,What’s a soundstage?

Kenny.

I'm not saying there is no soundstage you goofballs.  Of course there is and of course you can get a sense of the recording space.  And of course you're intentionally interpreting what I said in an extreme and intentionally wrong way.  It's how manipulative people behave.

When you talk about soundstage height, though, not a lot needs to be said.  If you were there when the recording was made and you listen to it at home afterwards did it sound about right?  If you weren't there but you have been to the place the recording was made did it sound like you'd expect from that location?  

When delusional reviewers and charlatans talk about a particular component having a lot of soundstage height, depth, etc. they don't typically relate it to how big the recording space actually was, how the recording was made.  When components are compared and one is said to have greater soundstage depth and no mention is made of what the depth of the actual soundstage was, there's no reason to think the component with the greater depth is the more accurate one.  

jon_5912, Here’s what you said in your first post, just for the record, no pun intended,

“We cannot measure soundstage height. We also do not know what the soundstage height is on the recording so there is no way to determine what the correct height is. That means we also don’t know whether one component is more or less accurate when it sounds different in this area.

After doing a ton of reading and listening over about 20 years I’ve decided that these types of differences are most likely distortions that will improve perceived performance in one area and degrade it in another.”

>>>>I was attacking your statement that “we don’t know what the correct height of the soundstage is.” We obviously DO know in many or most cases since we DO know WHERE the recordings were made. Frankly, I’m becoming less and less interested in your “findings” over the last 20 years. If success was based on how much reading we did we’d all be geniuses.

jon_5912 also opined,

“When delusional reviewers and charlatans talk about a particular component having a lot of soundstage height, depth, etc. they don’t typically relate it to how big the recording space actually was, how the recording was made. When components are compared and one is said to have greater soundstage depth and no mention is made of what the depth of the actual soundstage was, there’s no reason to think the component with the greater depth is the more accurate one.”

>>>>>Whatever.

Note to self: What’s this, old stalkers’ week?