Please Read and express your feelings and opinions....


I noticed  that lately or maybe for the last five yrs, there is so much arguments,name calling, attacking cables , speakers , components makers and more, more of disagreement with members, even Audio dealers are being attack here...Very few know how to apologize when they are wrong.What can we do as Audiogon members to improve our communication to each other? How to give the informations, recommendation to members who need it? This is without involving Audiogon, any opinion or ideas ,  For me this is fun and place to learn in audio...thank you all
jayctoy
I don't understand why some people are allergic to numbers and measurements. You can't construct much of anything without taking some measurements somewhere. This allergy to measurements is about as anti-intellectual and counterproductive as you can get.
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If it doesn't measure well, I keep working on the circuit.

I've been able to measure effects of fuses and power cords, which has often put me at odds with some that make apocryphal claims about them, but also those that I usually regard as 'objectivists' that won't take anything seriously without good measurements. In the latter case, they don't seem to want to cause their hand to move and make the measurements, instead proclaiming that a fuse or power cord can't make a difference. Without the measurements, their proclamations seem to me as bad (and for the same reason) as those that make the apocryphal claims.


....Music  🥁 ..... what is there to learn or know, other than embrace how you feel when struck by the right chord? 🎸
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Yep... Those pesky measurements! And the guys who invent the stuff this hobby is made of. Shame on them for actually achieving results! Quite unlike you and your magic rocks and silly spots. - kosst_amojan

For some people, "results" means using antiquated 80 year old technology that is highly vulnerable to changes in performance depending on what it's connected to. And for some folks, the lack of bass and exaggerated highs, coupled with increased harmonic distortion when using this ancient "technology" is "pleasing" or "desirable". Similarly, others see the pops and ticks, rapid wear, uneven high frequency performance, limited dynamic range, increased distortion, wow, and flutter associated with ancient vinyl technology as "more authentic". Unfortunately, we can't confine such individuals who promote and buy this junk to padded cells. We pretty much have to create invisible "padded cells" that effectively allow ourselves to ignore them. Magic resistors, magic vacuum tubes, magic cable suspenders, magic tonearms, magic cartridges, magic isolation blocks, magic "liquid" cables, magic fuses - all roped and cordoned off in those imaginary padded cells.  It boils down to ignorance and acceptance. We don't have to "fix" or accept their ignorance - just ignore it and them.