Jazz for aficionados

Rok, your post just made my night, it was spot on; we don't listen to jazz (meaning you and I) we perceive it. By that, I mean all the generations of musicians that went into it, before the one we're listening to, and I know Frogman can not understand that.

The same goes for the Delta Blues, we can hear the suffering of the generations that lived on plantations in shotgun shacks; what can you hear when listening to Blues from the UK, it's got to be counterfeit as far as you and I are concerned.

To perceive the music goes much further than simply listening to it. Since that post was primarily addressed to you, and not Frogman, he misunderstood it.


I have just began my stroll through the valley of the shadow of death, therefore I have no idea what to expect, other than a lot of different doctors; I'm not going VA, and being in your prayers means a lot because I know you are a sincerely religious man.

Orpheus10 I am truly sorry to hear of your health problem. My mom died  from breast cancer at 58 yo and my younger sister died just last year from lung cancer at 50 yo (she never smoked). I have been lucky so far...
Jack Teagarden's record Misry and the Blues is a really great blues/balled record with just one dixie swing tune. It really showcases his talent on the trombone and he does have  cool crooning vocal ability.

I am still waiting on the other record I bought here;
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007CEXJK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Quote second review:
These four discs are truly the best of Jack Teagarden. The selections on all four discs are perfect, with no duds, and the engineering quality is high. The stand-out is Disc Four, which is mostly groups with Teagarden and Louis Armstrong playing together. This material (also the last 3 selections on disc 3) features both Teagarden and Armstrong at their very best, mostly in live recordings - two musicians at the peak of their games spurring each other on and taking obvious pleasure playing together. In fact, I would choose many of these selections as the "best of the best" for Louis Armstrong as well as Teagarden. It includes the very best versions I know of Armstrong classics like "Ain't Misbehavin","Rocking Chair", "Black and Blue", "Royal Garden Blues", "Mahogany Hall Stomp", and "Way Down Yonder in New Orleans". I had never heard "Fifty-fifty Blues" but it is now one of my all-time favorite Armstrong-Teagarden performances.

Mike Clark

pjw, I appreciate your concerns, and my condolences for your losses. I don't understand why so much cancer; there must be a reason.

Thanks for the tip on "Big T", I will order it.

o10, I don't have any Kirk recordings so you should ask someone else.

And yes, Satch was certainly an entertainer.  But for me that does no discredit to his musical innovations, trumpet skills, and vocal soul (did anyone scat earlier than him?).  If you are interested in hearing what I'm talking about I can recommend a few other recordings in addition to the '47 Town Hall concert.  Try any of "Satch Plays Fats", "Ella and Louis"/"Ella and Louis Again", "Louis Armstrong & Duke Ellington, The Great Summit/The Master Takes" (sextet, not big band), and "Ambassador Satch".

Now I think you guys are being unnecessarily hard on Frog.  From what I've read here I would say he not only has great knowledge of the technical aspects of music but also a deep understanding if its development and history.  But he can defend himself I'm certain.

rok, Teagarden was born in Texas and raised in Oklahoma but I've never read anything suggesting any Native American lineage.  Regarding general ancestry, there is an interesting series on PBS, "Finding Your Roots".  Many black professionals have been profiled there and a significant number have mixed blood from their family history.  But that is not unique, some white professionals profiled have as well.  I believe our world is more of a melting pot than many care to admit.

pjw, interesting from your quote, I'm not alone in my impressions of Satch and T together.