green mountains


hi,

I am a green mountain user, I have the chromas. I want to find out about other peoples opinions on the Eos or Rio speakers from green mountain audio?
kenjit
Why would Thiel deviate from their superior measuring earlier designs??
Simple, this industry demands new products in order for a company to remain viable. This makes things very difficult for any Time/Phase practitioner to survive on anything but the small scale that Roy is maintaining. Case in point is Meadowlark and Dunlavy. Dunlavy came out of the gate with what is quite arguably the most accurate speaker line in the history of audio. (technically speaking) But where to go from there? And Meadowlark, their designs mostly changed with much improved cosmetics in the end. Neither survived.
There are only a small number of music lovers that actually care about truly accurate sound. (The rest are "audiophiles" aka "gear-o-philes")
The Thiel approach, no doubt, was to start looking towards marketing savvy exotic things. Joining the exotic driver bandwagon, etc.
Dunlavy flatly refused to move from the drivers he was familiar with. And Meadowlark took the route of trying to make ever more affordable designs while relying greatly on improved cosmetics and, to a lesser degree, improved performance.
But, ultimately, once you've designed a great time/phase coherent speaker you are essentially competing with yourself. There comes a certain saturation point where the anti time/phase coherent nature of the industry as a whole severely limits the gathering of new converts. And given that fact that a companies older time/phase accurate designs outperform newer "exotic" IN-coherent designs, these products are snatched up on the used market, doing the original manufacturer no good. They must rely, increasingly, on existing customers "upgrading".

On another note...
I've exchanged emails with Roy a few times and would really love to meet him someday. But I did have similar long exchanges with Pat McGinty (Meadowlark) and John Dunlavy. It's truly a very different conversation than with ANY of the other speaker designers out there. I would describe it as educational versus indoctrinational.
I wouldn't say it's a matter of mid bass to LF coherence. I am referring to the tone balance from lower mids upwards or simply the frequency response.

So in this regard what is your impression of the Eos? For example, the reviews of the Eos and Rio stated that there was an upper mid range forwardness. When I first heard the Rio that was pretty obvious to my ears, it just sounded like somebody had equalised the upper mids and boosted them. With the new chroma model, I still hear an unusual frequency response. That is why I would like other owners and people who have heard them, to comment.
For those who don't know about the Chroma:

www.proaudioitalia.it/pdf/greenmountain_listino.pdf
Kenjit, I didn't sense the frequency imbalance that you describe, nor was this remarked to me by any of the 30+ audio society members who heard Eos-HX at a club meet. I have also spent quality time with a friend's Calypso HDs. On low power SETs these had good tone and frequency balance as well. However, going back in time to an earlier model on display at RMAF 2010, I do recall hearing a bit of that in the GMA room. Show conditions can of course be problematic.

FWIW, I found that the 4 ohm Eos-HX relaxed considerably on the low impedance taps of my modified 75 wpc BAT tube amp.