where do you cross over your ht setup

Like I said before.ALL rooms have modes.If you don't do something about them with some type of parametric in the bass all you hear is the mode because it is 15-20db higher than the rest of the signal.If you choose to ignore this basic principle than fine, go ahead and listen to 32hz 15db higher than the rest of the movie sound track.Why are there so many blackboxes coming out to cure such problems.All i'm saying is to sum the bass to a capable sub @80hz you eleminate the problematic room mode effect by only EQing one sub.The empierical thinking that eq's are ruining your sound is as old fashion as two ch. stereo.Holding on to old idea's due to a lack of education is purely that.In the perfect world fullrange surround with a dedicated LFE sub is what would be somewhat the holy grail.This experiment has been done by better than you and I with more problems than they could count.Go back to your two ch. dinosour and 1950's EQ fear and let people learn and enjoy the knowledge they learn here.I love this forum!

You're kidding right? I have no problems with EQ's. Not sure where you gathered that from. I'm also not sure what "old ideas" you think I'm holding on to.

If you can get linear response to 20hz with your mains why cut them off at 80hz? If you can get linear response to 35hz with your surrounds why cut them off at 80hz? Can you answer this in any reasonable way?

Vedric...Take off the grill and look at what your woofer is doing while it reproduces 20 Hz (or even 30 Hz). Do you want that going on while it is trying to reproduce the critical 80-800 Hz range? Same goes for the power amp.

no room is linear.no room is linear.period.your gear might be linear , but your room is not and i would be willing to bet dollars to dougnuts that your room modes are there and you have yet to address them or are willing to do anything about them.what we are trying to say is that if your perfect room is indeed perfect keep on keepin'on.i doubt it is because they don't exist my friend.it is easier to eq a single sub than put up with the room modes from five separate locations.do the math, it is impossible and denial is your worst enemy.i would love to go back and forth but this will be my last post and as Bruce Williams says,"I wish you well"

You guys are nuts! :)

Eldartford first.. I dont think you have followed what ive said very closely. I do crossover my speakers just not at THX cinema standard 80hz or higher. Its a waste if you have useful linear output below that point.

Kgveteran I can tell you a thousand times I have fairly flat response to 30hz (-2db'ish) with my mains. Im down 4-5db'ish at 25hz. I have a 2-3db peak around 60hz but this is a voicing issue. What a waste to cut them off! I also am most certainly NOT sitting in the middle of a room mode. If you wish snub your nose and call me a liar its no skin off my back. Keep on keeping on and I will as well, enjoying proper placement of 5 channel mixes all the way.

Bye