Digital Preamp NO video switching


Hi guys and gals,

what are my options for a no video switching digital preamp other than Bryston SP 1.7 ?

I have an AVP to replace because all my video switching is done by my Elite Quadscan HD.

What do you think? The market does not seem to offer much and while I like what I read about the Bryston, I don't like the look of it and its cost.
agw
Ok, sure...let's end this useless thread. I think we'll all feel better. But just let me ask a couple of final questions. How do you reconcile the following comments you have made?:

"08-16-03: Distortion
I compared many pre/pros before settling on the Bryston. It easily beat Krell(showcase), Rotel(1066), Integra(RD7 I think), B & K (Ref30 and 50), Sunfire(TG3), and Acurus. The Classe SSP-30 was very close. "

"04-19-04: Distortion
To be honest, having heard all of these Processors on many occasions, in many environments, including my home. I must say (once again) that the Bryston, EAD, and Meridian perform very, very close (along with others). To claim one is evidently superior to the other sounds like Bull$hi* to me. "

Well, Distortion?? It seems like you consider your own post of
4/19/04 to be total Bull$hi* if we follow the reasoning of your
8/16/03 post. Or are you the only one who is allowed to come to some conclusions when comparing equipment around here? Or are conclusions only valid when they support that your components are superior (as opposed to inferior) to others??

In all my days on Audiogon, AVS forum, and Audioasylum, I've never seen ANYBODY with your degree of persistant arrogance or inconsistency.

Have you really had an EAD processor in your home?? Which one??

Harry
Have you put in to many hours at the hospital? Or is spring fever gone bad in Maryland?

This is childish and useless but....

If it isnt already obvious, some Processors do outperform others. Usually you have to triple the cost to get a solid performing 2 channel Processor.

Do you see Meridian or EAD in my comparison.

So my inconsistency and arrogance stem from a fictional conclusion that if I think 3 processors perform close then all Processors must perform close. Right. Highly flawed logic.

And of course yours' is so superior that even someone with cotton in their ears could tell the difference.

All I wanted to do was let AGW, yunno the guy who asked about video switching, know that not all A'goners feel EAD blows Bryston (which he did mention) and Meridian away.

You kept revisiting and using my name on each post. Maybe it is persistent arrogance. You requested and received it.

EAD TM 8000, but I have heard just about all the EADs at this point. And.....they are all excellent.
It's not an issue of whether you specifically mentioned EAD or Meridian or Bryston. Let's forget the specific equipment here. It's your criticism of others for things that you do yourself that bugs me into spending some precious time on this useless thread!!

You readily compare Bryston to Krell yourself.....but get critical when I compare EAD to Bryston. How do you reconcile that????

"08-16-03: Distortion
I compared many pre/pros before settling on the Bryston. It easily beat Krell(showcase), Rotel(1066), Integra(RD7 I think), B & K (Ref30 and 50), Sunfire(TG3), and Acurus. The Classe SSP-30 was very close. "

You're allowed to say Bryston (list $4K) easily beat Krell (list $4k).......but god forbid I say that I think EAD is sonically "much better" than Bryston.........and you start telling me how inappropriate that is.

It's all plain to see....but it is unlikely that you will allow yourself to see it.

Harry
Oh boy, oh boy what a mess I started!

Well, guys I appreciate some of the insights I got here and I'm sorry to have (indirectly) caused some acrimonies between you too; who knows maybe one day we'll bump into each other at an audio store and we'll laugh about it.

Anyway, going back to MY original topic, thank you very much, I know that Meridian makes an amp with no video switching and that EAD does not.

I'm also under the impression that maybe it is ok to accept the idea of wasting the video switching section.

There is another thread recently started about the best 5.1 pre/pro and I see some other names and opinions.

I guess that if this was an easy decision we wouldn't be here discussing it and where would all the fun be?

Thanks again for your comments (some of them anyway) and if you guys do happen to think of some other names please do post.

Thanks

Andrea
Agw, no problem I rather enjoy it.

I agree that it is acceptable (to most anyway) to waste the video switching section. You're right it isnt an easy decision and it is a potential financial wash too (A lot of Processors dont hold their value well).

I didnt want video switching either, but I didnt limit myself to those that didnt as far as comparison. Even though a lot of semantics were discussed in the previous post very few specifics were. I specifically wanted a Pre/Pro to do 2 channel well and thats what lead me to where I am today.

Although looking back I probably should have built my two channel around my HT. Though dont get me wrong I am not disappointed. Its just that, after hearing so many Processors it is readily apparent that most of the "good" Processors perform very close when in movie mode (DD/DTS). Its the music modes that set them apart(good from great IMO), especially two channel. But you can easily achieve as good or even better 2 channel with a piggybacked Preamp.

EAD are awesome performers. In retrospect, had I auditioned one when I was originally shopping, I might have one of them right now. But, dont take my word for it. Get out and listen to some. Theres nothing like hands and ears on.