Comfedboy, Tireguy and all others who miss my point. dollar FOR dollar electrostats produce a more intragral musical natural sound, (call it what you will) REPRODUCTION OF THE ORGINAL RECORDING. they do not "manipulate"(for lack of a better word) the information as do most boxes. take the smallest martin logan($2000) or the little isis($2600) from sound lab place these 2 in a room with any the best 5 box type models around $2000, blind fold 10 unbiased audiophiles ,use the same amp. preamp.and cdp on all 7 speakers and ask tell them they are here to judge 7 amp. manufacturers ... i would say the two electrostats would be in top 3 spots with 9 out of 10 oh all right 8 out 10 judges. like ya'll say im a big electrostat fan...mostly because classical music sounds great through electrostats. true, electrostats have more breakthroughs to achieve ,whereas boxed have seemed to have reach their limits. Tireguy as far as pathos being "THE end" in audio, nope, but maybe the best for the buck... for my taste. one audiophile wrote that the $6000 audio aero capitole sounded almost as good as his $11000 accuphase(he wished he had the capitole + savings) ,accuphase claims its the best obviously its not, and neither is pathos i apologize for my overzeal, every day something new is developing in the audio world hopefully they'll make it affordable for all of us one day. regards
Under rated speakers due to price....?
AND the resulting associated equipment?
I have a theory and am interested what others think about it. Is it possible that we underrate some speakers because they sell for a reasonable price and therefor listen to them with similar equipment?
I have a decent system consisting of the Rowland integrated amp, SCD-777ES and normally Aerial Model 6 speakers with a Storm III. I have frequently purchased many "cheap" speakers for second systems and I always try them in the good system just for kicks. Some sound OK, but some sound great. I recently tried a pair of less than $300 (Circuit City price) Polk RT35i speakers in the good system and could not believe how awesome they sounded for 1/10 the price of the Aerials. I could easily see some new high end company selling a similar sounding product for 5 times the price and getting it with happy customers.
I then thought about it - - how often do you hear about 2-500 dollar speakers being paired with a 10k system? Has anyone ever checked the associated equipment in Stereophile's class A speakers against the class B or C's? I didn't have the patience. But I bet as a rule that exotic speakers like Grand Utopias or Pipe Dreams are NOT listened to with low hi-end equipment like the lesser speakers are. If you pair some Vandersteen 2c's or B&W CDM-1's with Boulder amps, (and list the speakers at 10 grand) might people call them "some of the best?"
I have a theory and am interested what others think about it. Is it possible that we underrate some speakers because they sell for a reasonable price and therefor listen to them with similar equipment?
I have a decent system consisting of the Rowland integrated amp, SCD-777ES and normally Aerial Model 6 speakers with a Storm III. I have frequently purchased many "cheap" speakers for second systems and I always try them in the good system just for kicks. Some sound OK, but some sound great. I recently tried a pair of less than $300 (Circuit City price) Polk RT35i speakers in the good system and could not believe how awesome they sounded for 1/10 the price of the Aerials. I could easily see some new high end company selling a similar sounding product for 5 times the price and getting it with happy customers.
I then thought about it - - how often do you hear about 2-500 dollar speakers being paired with a 10k system? Has anyone ever checked the associated equipment in Stereophile's class A speakers against the class B or C's? I didn't have the patience. But I bet as a rule that exotic speakers like Grand Utopias or Pipe Dreams are NOT listened to with low hi-end equipment like the lesser speakers are. If you pair some Vandersteen 2c's or B&W CDM-1's with Boulder amps, (and list the speakers at 10 grand) might people call them "some of the best?"
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