I'm now a Cardas Woman. I used to be a Kimber gal

To Elizabeth, you could have fooled me with the comment that.... "for me, it is..... "100% about the music...."

To Grey9hound....maybe you should remove the Grey9 from your name, and just call yourself "hound" If you are "TOTALLY" missing my point, then let me clue you in about something.

I knew I was going to draw some flack because of my comments. However, I did not think a moratorium had been placed on disagreement, not just disagreement over products or usage, but a general disagreement about the tenor of the discussion.

Geez, I did not know my comments would turn me into a "Gringe" and upset my fellow AG members. Would it not be better to take the comments for what they are: an observation. Disagreement is not chastisement

02-16-14: Elizabeth
Anyway. just want to clarify my treble happy stance.
For me, if the treble is off it all sucks. For the rest, I can put up with what I would call minor flaws.. (and i am certain others would hate those flaws totally) Odd I guess.

That is why it is important to know what the person's tastes are, to help with choices. For me, you could replace the word "treble" with the word "midrange" and that would describe my listening preferences. Treble and bass are nice, if possible, but the midrange has to be right to get my toes a tapping. That's why they make so many different flavors. ;)

100% about the music..."
Well the whole reason to even have a stereo is to play music. maybe i should be listening to test tones?
The jump into cable hell was after a long gap of not buying anything except music. And by the end of next month I will probably not look at or listen specifically to a cable for years..
So i guess some folks have no ability to see beyond the present moment. Sure i am listening to the sound. i want to fix what is a problem which I started a few months ago, and seriously want to fix so i can go back to just ignoring the stuff in my setup and play music with no thought to the parts.
The fact several folks jumped on your comments should suggest taking a break, laying back, Nope, you want to defend your statements. So if YOU can dish out criticism, so can others. Funny you want to dish out but not get any back?
Anyway sorry you are upset folks are bashing back. Glass houses and all. And no one says you have to shut up either, all you need is to be able to take your lumps. Instead of whining that it is unfair you got them.

And for Jmcgrogan2 Yup! right on.

Yea.... Elizabeth tell me all about it. You sound like a real intellect. Obviously, you missed the point of my last comment like Mr Greyhound9...."that disagreement is not chastisement" It seems a bit obscene to me to spend all that money to eke out an ounce of better sound; I been doing audio since 1972 and always felt constrained to control my self indulgence in this hobby

Your comment"....and no one says you have to shut up either" is laughable because you have a consensus of the responders in your favor, and therefore argue from a supposed position of authority of numbers (or is it superiority??) You misconstrue my criticism as "whining". I see it as legitimate criticism that needs to be aired

Let me ask: when is the last time you ventured to say something controversial in a thread that either questions the audio obsession or the fact that these toys are so expensive. Lastly, I guess if you want to spend yourself into bankruptcy that is your choice.

Bummerjim, Elizabeth has always championed lower cost cables. She found a sound with the Cardas and really liked the sound with her system. The Cardas are not even very expensive.She went a little too far with the loom concept and learned/relearned a lesson. Some good stuff here.

Why does this bother you? I don't understand how your points relate to this thread? The cost of audio? start another thread. This thread is in the cable section, surprise, the focus is on cables.

Most of us are constantly constrained by cost, why pat yourself on the back?

Elizabeth, enjoy your new cables!