I'm now a Cardas Woman. I used to be a Kimber gal

Yea.... Elizabeth tell me all about it. You sound like a real intellect. Obviously, you missed the point of my last comment like Mr Greyhound9...."that disagreement is not chastisement" It seems a bit obscene to me to spend all that money to eke out an ounce of better sound; I been doing audio since 1972 and always felt constrained to control my self indulgence in this hobby

Your comment"....and no one says you have to shut up either" is laughable because you have a consensus of the responders in your favor, and therefore argue from a supposed position of authority of numbers (or is it superiority??) You misconstrue my criticism as "whining". I see it as legitimate criticism that needs to be aired

Let me ask: when is the last time you ventured to say something controversial in a thread that either questions the audio obsession or the fact that these toys are so expensive. Lastly, I guess if you want to spend yourself into bankruptcy that is your choice.

Bummerjim, Elizabeth has always championed lower cost cables. She found a sound with the Cardas and really liked the sound with her system. The Cardas are not even very expensive.She went a little too far with the loom concept and learned/relearned a lesson. Some good stuff here.

Why does this bother you? I don't understand how your points relate to this thread? The cost of audio? start another thread. This thread is in the cable section, surprise, the focus is on cables.

Most of us are constantly constrained by cost, why pat yourself on the back?

Elizabeth, enjoy your new cables!

Thanks Acman3. I do not get 'Bummerjim's problem. I would guess it has something to do with having something stuck up his ass ... itching bad. Perhaps some cheap cables?
Not my problem.

Agree My take on cable money i have stated many times.. Ten percent is a good balance of total system cost to total cable cost.(this is all IC, speaker cable and powercords.)

Sure some folks go beyond and no problem if they are happy with that. But if you have to ask, the 10% is a great guide. More than ten percent often the money would be better spent on the electronics.

Bummerjim may just be jealous too. I have no idea why he wants to crap on my parade.
Since December I have spent $5,000 Retail on cables/wire. Subtract the discounts, and old cable stuff i sold and cash out of pocket is about $2,700. So not a big expense for me. To "spend myself into bankruptcy" would take a lot more than under three grand. The money spent on a little Christmas present to myself. And that is what the cables sort of are.. Just a little late that is all.

And yes the Parsec are the cheapest current Cardas cable product.
The Kimber wire I am buying is some expensive raw copper round wire they sell. they do sell some even more exotic rectangular copper, but how do you strip the insulation from a tiny rectangular wire???

Anyway, with powercords, speaker cables and all these new IC, i am a little over the 10% as of now. BUT if I buy the Magnepan 20.7 I want then I will ba safely back in the 10% zone.
So ALL I need to do is save up a little to get the Magnepan 20.7 to rebalance my spending.

Great audiophile reasoning there.BTW

10% isn't the right answer anyway. True audiophiles know the correct number is 12.5%. Do your research! I bypassed a lot of great sounding cables to get to the right number.

Truly amazing. If someone here has the funds to spend on new cables (and, frankly, Elizabeth didn't mortgage the house for the valhalla 10's BUT, she IS allowed to do so, if she wants to~this is America, ey, mate?). (I can only imagine what you think of the gentlemen who just ordered 40 stillpoints).

Seems to me this thread went haywire.

It should have gone to - "gee, Elizabeth, thank you for the input and sharing your experiences with us...".

If you want to all get crazy, I just upgraded a 10 year old $1000 cable for a new used $3400 cable that I was fortunate to buy for $1,450. To say it brought my system to a new level is an understatement. To think that it takes $3,400 cables to elevate my system is criminal. But, again, here in America... Guess what? They sell them and I can buy them. Love this place.