I wonder if a tube radiator (like o ring, or Kryna) helps the matter...
Elrog 300B vs Takatsuki 300B tubes
Has anyone heard the Elrog 300B tubes ? I read an article which mentioned that the Elrog 300B delivers 15% less power than a traditional 300B tubes. Can anyone confirm that it is audible ?
I am choosing between Elrog and Takatsuki 300B tubes. I would prefer the Elrog because it is cheaper and supposedly wonderful but if it really sounds less powerful then I have to rethink.
I am choosing between Elrog and Takatsuki 300B tubes. I would prefer the Elrog because it is cheaper and supposedly wonderful but if it really sounds less powerful then I have to rethink.
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Ok, George from Tubes,USA came by Friday and took the measurements. He requested I hold off this information until he lets Elrog know his findings, which I will honor. I'll let everyone know sometime this week. First he tested all the tubes on his tube tester. They all came back testing excellent. These are the 300b we used in the Franks: Elrog EML XLS Takatsuki Psvane HI-FI series (stock tubes that came the amps) The cathode resistor measured value in my amp was 1.025k He tested for plate voltage and cathode voltages. I'll let you know the results once George talks with Elrog. Joe |
Ok, here is the information that George emailed me. Hi Joe, You can post this data. Be sure to mention that customers of these amplifiers test their AC line voltages(AC Voltmeter). Over 122V AC is a game changer for these or any other 300B tubes. Ideally, in their home they should be have voltages in the 114-122V range. If they have excessive voltage, they should purchase a "variac" as a means of protection for their equipment. Best, George Hello Joe, Here it is the recent data taken from Friday's testing...... Takatsuki 300B 474V plate 33 watt dissipation 84 V across cathode Elrog 300B 484V plate 32 watt dissipation 79V across cathode EML 300BXLS 486V plate 31 watt dissipation 75V across cathode Psvane 300B 484V plate 30 watt dissipation 74V across cathode Line voltage 119.4VAC Cathode resistor value 1.025K ohms Best, George I hope this helps, Joe |
Excellent info, Joe (& George). That all seems very comfortable relative to the specified "limiting operating conditions for safe operation" of the Elrog tube. (79V/1.025K = 77 ma). And the plate dissipation which can be calculated from those numbers is actually closer to 31 watts rather than 32. Enjoy! Best regards, -- Al |
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