Inna Thanks for that suggestion, I had looked for Rowland before but pricing was a issue for me and no one in the area carrys his products to listen to. I like the reiews of Sim i7 becuse of the dynamics, bass and staging. I like ARC becuse it's always been my Mt. Everest. MAC is just plain great and I've heard them a number of times but they may just be a tad slow and dark for tastes but I'd have to listen to them in house. Classe is just plain smooth, great PRAT but I'd like just a bit more bottom end strength if I could but it is truely great with the CD 3 Mk 2! Another possibile might be NAD M3 and again I'd have to hear it. Kclone is probably right on the money, I'd like to keep things as simple as possible and have great sound and it surely would keep me out of spending trouble with extras and change lust. Just trying to put my finger on a great sound stage (wide and deep), some extra bottom end combined with what I already enjoy, patience is a virture and I guess something I need to excerise better, but help and suggestions from the community helps me find the path. Thank you all again for your input and I'm open to more ideas if it could help.