Classe move to China

And the beat goes on ................

China hasn't done anything to us. We did it to ourselves by believing Rush and his thousand clones and the Faux News propagandist blather.
We may have elected GWB twice - or we may not have - but we got the Bush-Cheney Regime nonetheless and now we are poised to get much worse.
Fiddler says his world isn't burning, maybe mine is. What he fails to recognize here, and what all the free marketers overlook, is the simple fact that it is OUR WORLD. We all live here and we all need to be concerned about how we care for our home. We need to place the well-being of our home above profits and personal ideology. We need to care about making our home as safe and sane, as compassionate and purposeful and as prosperous and kind as we can manage.
The "us vs. them" mentality and diviseness perpetuated by the 1% is deliberate. They want us blaming each other instead looking at the real problem, them.
The ultra wealthy strive to deprive their fellow citizens of unemployment benefits they were legally required to pay into. They refer to the mandated savings accounts we all have in Social Security as entitlements. That's like calling their cash stockpile an entitlement. It is. They are entitled to their own money just as all of us are. Why do they want to stop us from collecting our own funds?
This goes on and on.
If you lost a $65,000/yr. job, do you think it went to an illegal immigrant? Nope. The "job creators" took your job to create one in Asia for 15% of what they were paying you.
Classe may have held out as long as they could before surrendering to the reality that we would find another alternative rather than pay what it costs to make the stuff in Canada. So it was China or Chapter 11.
OOPS!! Does Canada have Chapter 11?

Well! This has been an interesting thread. Let's see the jobs report tomorrow. Seems things are less crappy than a year ago, though as we know, all jobs are not created equal. I wonder what the median household income looks like today versus 3 years ago, 10 years ago, and 25 years ago (in constant dollars). All I know is that is a lot easier today for a young couple to buy a house in line with their real income and ability to pay - no hocus pocus loans creating the illusion of affordability, or the false sense that RE always goes up in value, at least not at 20-30% a year.

Geez, this thread has really gone viral and no one has brought up religion yet. You American boys are well behaved.

Classe did not move to China. It is B&W, the now parent company, that moved Classe to China. Executive decisions such as this one are no longer made in Montreal. I do not own Classe but i have read great product reviews in TAS and Stereophile over the years. Me, i will never own a $15K amp or preamp with a made in China badge. This is how you have to look at this; would you own/buy a Ferrari, Porshe, Alfa Romeo made in China? Would you own/buy a $43K Audio Research REF 610T made in China?
Well let me answer that for you.
You may have to some day. ARC is now owned by a private equity firm with holdings in a variety of global industries. How fast you think that this conglomerate can pull the pin on ARC?
Here's the next thread: "Audio Research move to China".
How viral would that go?
Classe did not move to China. You're just having a bad dream.

We have met the enemy, and it is Us.

"Fiddler says his world isn't burning, maybe mine is. What he fails to recognize here, and what all the free marketers overlook, is the simple fact that it is OUR WORLD. We all live here and we all need to be concerned about how we care for our home. We need to place the well-being of our home above profits and personal ideology. We need to care about making our home as safe and sane, as compassionate and purposeful and as prosperous and kind as we can manage."

Sure it's our world (in theory), but I can only control my portion of it. And if 47% of Americans aren't paying into the system, then it isn't as much of "OUR WORLD" after all.

That's the problem with liberals. They want everything to be fair for everyone. The only "fair" is a fairytale.

I'm sorry. I don't apologize for being successful and having a very high income (relatively speaking - Bill Gates excluded). I have earned every dime of it by working hard, taking huge risks and simply being blessed (and I'm in church on Sundays).

My success hasn't come at anyone else's expense either. The notion that success has to come on the backs of others is simply class warfare and it's stupid. The over-whelming number of successful people I know personally did it the same way I did - by working hard, risking everthing and treating people fairly. And just in case you are wondering, I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth with any advantages. My spoon was a wooden spoon. My Dad was a truck driver his whole life and my Mom a secretary. But they taught us hard work and ethics.

If you or anyone else is not as successful as you want to be, don't blame me. I have nothing to do with your life and the decisions you make.

I am sick and tired of hearing the whining and namby-pamby, us vs. them class warfare rhetoric. Get off of your butt and go find as much success as you want. If your world is burning down, then figure out how to put the fire out. Since the beginning of time, some have been more successful than others. Simply human nature.

Life ain't fair, so quit complaining and figure out how to work within the system we have (or try to change it, that's what our Democratic Republic is about). But in the mean time, it may be hugely helpful to do something more productive and more risky than hanging out in an audiophile forum all day.

There - I feel better.