Do we believe in Machina Dynamics?

Jea48, It's obvious from your questions to Pauly that you have a complete command of the science involving outlet covers - at least I assume that all of the things that you bring up can affect the difference that different outlet covers can introduce into out systems.

Why don't you take a moment and enlighten us on the science involving outlet covers and how all of the variants you bring up can change the differences that they will introduce.

Oh, have you submitted your set up to such rigorous standards? Have you done blind tests? Or do you just hear a difference with your 'dog ears'.

Jeffreybowman2k I have only had two members from audio forums that thought they had to resort to emailing me at home to settle their differences over a subject matter on a forum board. You were the first of the two. And both of you sadly to say from this forum..... Looking back I wished I had saved your vulgar nasty email to post here. But at the time I took it as only a childish email from someone blowing off steam. Though I did not respond to you with an email I did forward it to Agon for a good laugh. I always wondered if they followed through on it with you.

So in closing I hope you and others will understand why I will not respond directly to your posts here on this thread or any other.

08-12-07: Newbee
Jea48, It's obvious from your questions to Pauly that you have a complete command of the science involving outlet covers - at least I assume that all of the things that you bring up can affect the difference that different outlet covers can introduce into out systems.

Why don't you take a moment and enlighten us on the science involving outlet covers and how all of the variants you bring up can change the differences that they will introduce.

Oh, have you submitted your set up to such rigorous standards? Have you done blind tests? Or do you just hear a difference with your 'dog ears'.
Newbee (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers)

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Newbee, I never expected this type of post from you.
If you would please check the archives here on Agon as well as the archives on AA you will find I have done exactly as you have asked. I also have given testimonials by others on this forum. I have supplied actual posts from a well respected EE and even a well respected former audio equipment designer and manufacture of audio equipment and other products such as ics and pcs just to name a couple. If you would please take the time and read from the archives of AA you will find others that have run their experiments with similar results. You will also find they talk about the differences in sound can depend on the factors I stated in my post to Paul.

Neebee why don't you present your same challenge to Albert Porter, a well respected member of this forum, in regards to his experimenting and findings for outlet cover plates...... I bet you would find the same questions I asked of Paul were part of the experimenting, testing, and findings that entered into his final conclusions.

Jea48, I guess you can credit my post to ignorance, interest, and a lack of civility that is becoming a far bigger component in posts about tweaks than the tweaks themselves. Your 'hearing' attack on Pauly was just the perverbial straw. There have been far more eggregious comments by others including Pauly and tgb.

If you don't answer my question thats OK. I'm too lazy to really undertake the suggested research so I guess I'll remain uniformed.

But perhaps you can tell me why folks have to decide whether other folks are deaf, ignorant/uneducated, or deluded depending on whether they are believers or athiests.

Albert is IMHO an outstanding advocate for his beliefs. I can't recall seeing him insult an adversary. He might even chose the time to walk away from an uncomfortable confrontation, IMHO a wise move. Why argue with some one you don't/can't respect. I don't, and I don't tell my enemies when their fly is open.

You are not going to change Pauly's opinion (nor is tgb) so whats the point of continuing. Those folks who feel as Pauly does will do so because its natural for them to do so not because of his articulate balanced presentation of his case. He is never IMHO going to bring any believers over to his side.

But, by way of example, I believe the manner in which the 'believers' present their case, such as have been pursued by posters like tbg as oppose to Albert can easily convert open minded (not pre-disposed) audiophiles to non-believers.

FWIW, IMHO, I feel better for saying 'a pox on both houses'.

Don't take my comments more personal than you deem necessary. "-)

+++ He is never IMHO going to bring any believers over to his side. +++

Hi Newbee. Seems I would have been terribly unsuccessful evangelist. ;-)

I have decided not to participate in this conversation mostly due to what you state. I think the fact that folks like Geoff Kait make no attempt at explaining their products, but defend their product by discrediting others, more than validate my opinion that they are frauds. (to me anyhow)

I have been involved in audio and electronics for a couple of decades now. Having had many erroneous ‘beliefs’ (and still have many I suppose) and have had my mind opened by posters such as Ralph (Atmasphere) and Raul.

I look forward to posts from individuals with sound factual knowledge such as them as it almost always turns out to be a learning experience from me. For sure, from Norm, Geoff Kait and Jim there is nothing to be learned.

Regards
Paul