@Schubert and Mapman -I agree with Schubert that Glenn Gould just doesn't do it for me, at all. I frankly don't really get why so many people think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Certainly Bach would roll over in his grave....
@Frogman - thanks for the compliments, and your posts are certainly even better.
@O-10 - sometimes your posts are much more saddening to me than Rok's are. I really am saddened that you seem to think that these things you describe are beyond your understanding. They are not! In fact, it really wouldn't take much effort on your part! I really don't understand why someone who clearly loves music as much as you do won't make the effort, which would bring you levels of enjoyment far beyond even what you have now.
One specific comment you made truly baffles me: "I no more listen for tone and timbre, than I listen for copper or silver wire". Leaving the wire part of it aside, this truly is like someone in an art gallery saying that they don't pay any attention to color or texture. Tone or timbre (these are pretty much the same thing, by the way) are where the heart of our playing is - our personal tone is the most direct expression of our soul. That is our voice. And whenever you are listening to a great singer, yes you are indeed very much listening to their tone! Think of the other instruments the same way, especially the wind instruments, which are actually quite similar, being produced with our breath.
I'll probably piss off some audiophiles here with this last comment, but I cannot resist also adding that if you don't pay any attention to tone/timbre - how the hell do you judge your audio system? For any musician, this is THE most important aspect of it - how close the system comes to resolving those sounds we work so hard to create. After all, fundamentally, music is the creation of sound in time.
@Frogman - thanks for the compliments, and your posts are certainly even better.
@O-10 - sometimes your posts are much more saddening to me than Rok's are. I really am saddened that you seem to think that these things you describe are beyond your understanding. They are not! In fact, it really wouldn't take much effort on your part! I really don't understand why someone who clearly loves music as much as you do won't make the effort, which would bring you levels of enjoyment far beyond even what you have now.
One specific comment you made truly baffles me: "I no more listen for tone and timbre, than I listen for copper or silver wire". Leaving the wire part of it aside, this truly is like someone in an art gallery saying that they don't pay any attention to color or texture. Tone or timbre (these are pretty much the same thing, by the way) are where the heart of our playing is - our personal tone is the most direct expression of our soul. That is our voice. And whenever you are listening to a great singer, yes you are indeed very much listening to their tone! Think of the other instruments the same way, especially the wind instruments, which are actually quite similar, being produced with our breath.
I'll probably piss off some audiophiles here with this last comment, but I cannot resist also adding that if you don't pay any attention to tone/timbre - how the hell do you judge your audio system? For any musician, this is THE most important aspect of it - how close the system comes to resolving those sounds we work so hard to create. After all, fundamentally, music is the creation of sound in time.

