Jazz for aficionados

Do "all" aficionados consider this beautiful music?


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTp9mjI04kM



Enjoy this music

Rok, maybe you should have specified "Aficionados" in regard to record collections.


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb2w2m1JmCY


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08jyOwx96Ig


Here are some good one's for you.


Enjoy the music.

A word is defined by how it is used, the word "soul" as used in jazz, is almost sacred. It's used to describe the sound of the very few who project it.

The sound of soul can be projected in song or instrumental music. When you hear it, the sound resonates within the depths of your being. No need to understand the language, people from around the world experience the same profound emotions when they lose the love of a lifetime, and they instinctively know when such an event is projected through song or instrumental music.

Ray Charles, "The Sun Died";


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpR8UrMQvnU


The words don't tell the story half as much as the sound of Ray Charles voice.

"The Sun Died"; there is no life without the Sun. Yesterday, he was in paradise gazing into her beautiful eyes.


Bobby Timmons is the unspoken master of instrumental soul;


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNjRQo-zpKA&list=RDEMwn1l3d6X9Dhg9J52Gz5zMg&start_radio=1


That piano and the music says it all; each note makes a profound statement about down and out, and unable to do anything about it, except "Moan".


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNjRQo-zpKA&list=RDEMwn1l3d6X9Dhg9J52Gz5zMg&start_radio=1


This song projects someone who is too tired to walk, but for whatever reason he has to keep going.

Freddie Hubbard;


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B1oIXGX0Io

Acman, I missed something, I only read reviews, could you please post the music again.

Tina Brooks, under rated tenor;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuoXVdyWhx8

Hank Mobley, Mobley's Message, 200g mono LP;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCrChuzeM24&list=PLrndCwx3CtWPc0z2GjIQf-WY8a20EvaRB

This is to correct my mistake on Bobby Timmons;


This song projects someone who is too tired to walk, but for whatever reason he has to keep going.


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTMVmHUgzEs

Alex I'm going to give each one of those cuts a long listen and get back to you.

It doesn't matter whether it's an objective call or a subjective call; a right call or a wrong call, there is just too much good old jazz, that's conducive to my sense of taste and hearing, that's out there, for me to spend any more money on new jazz.

Everything that Alex posted needs to be in my collection; I wont be trying to sell it the next day.

Alex, all Junior Mance needs is Ray Charles;


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3617vhFr_lY

Ghosthouse, some of "Jazz jazz" is an acquired taste; some of early Miles for sure; I know I'm not going to spend time trying to acquire a taste for raw oysters, and I see no reason to "acquire" a taste for music; you like it or you don't like it, on to the next thing until you find something you like.

I posted Lew Tabackin, that's something you haven't responded to, you might like it.


Enjoy the music.

Acman, I like smoked oysters, but not "raw" oysters, no way ever.  

There was a sea food place I went to for lunch, and had "Bouillabaisse"  almost everyday, and I watched this guy slurp down raw oysters; he made them look so good that I wanted to try one, but never quite made it.

Do you like "raw" oysters?

I didn't "acquire" a taste for jazz, it's part of me and the way I live. I would have to "acquire" a taste for classical music, which I have no intention of doing.

That's where I was coming from; there is so much music that comes under the heading of jazz, that it's possible to find music you like without "acquiring" a taste for it. Life is too short to "acquire" a taste for anything; either you like it or you don't; that's the way it is with me and jazz; some of it I like , some of it I don't.


Enjoy the music.

If I like smoked oysters, that doesn't count, I guess?

Emmanuel Pahud: Debussy/ Syrinx, is hauntingly beautiful.

Lew Tabackin's "Pyramid" is likewise, ever so beautiful.

Today is a good day for music;

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE0qBOhVsiM


Old versus New, is not the issue; what I like and don't like is the issue.


From my vantage point there has been as much "old" jazz (I dislike "jazz-jazz") posted here that I would consider mediocre or even sub-par as there has been "new" jazz that I can say the same about. This goes to what I think is a key question that never receives a satisfactory answer in the endless debate about old vs. new jazz:


While I agree with what you posted, it seems that I'm supposed to like jazz because it's new as opposed to "music" to my ears; whether it's new or old, either I like it or I don't like it.

I feel like I'm "short timin" and I don't have enough left to evaluate for any length  of time.

I don't recall being a fan of Wynton? Maybe part of your post applies to someone else who I refuse to name.


Enjoy the music.

Herby Mann, sure is sounding good today.

"Comin Home Baby"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJEjFh2FOzA

    "Norwegian Wood"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJEjFh2FOzA


I bought a record "Common Ground" by Herby, and I liked the music, but not the recording quality; later on I discovered he couldn't hear too well.

Does anybody have that with good recording quality?


Enjoy the music.

Rok, that must be my favorite "doo wop", and I have a doo wop collection on reel to reel.

I'm not sure about the effect R&R had on "doo wop"; I think doo wop morphed into "Motown", like jazz morphed into "fusion".

Out of all the genres of music, "Rock" is least understood by me, because when you done heard one rocker screaming and wailing on a guitar, plus a drummer pounding my ear drums out, you done heard em all.

Here's a percussionist I like;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y4cc8lzPBI


Here's some fantastic Brazilian percussion;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDPuQWg_A8Q

Mary_jo, I'm glad you presented your side of this discussion in music. I only see 2 that I'm familiar with; "While My Guitar Weeps" and "The End". That opening intro with the helicopter blades whirring tells me it's "Nam"; being a vet who's considered a Nam vet, but never went to Nam, I found "Apocalypse Now" quite fascinating, and the same for The Doors.

Here's some music for thought;


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCBS5EtszYI


I'll get back to you regarding your other submissions.

I never attempted to ascertain the different divisions in Rock, such as "Heavy Metal" or maybe "Rock a billy" or whatever; as a matter of fact, I have always liked Santana, but never considered him Rock.

Rok, you just messed up my thoughts; but in either case, as you know Rok, "Delta Blues" has never been my groove, but Ike Turner reminded me of one of my experiences.

I was walking past a club where Ike Turner played, and saw a pretty girl as I passed the window. She was sitting at a table with two other "grown women", and I could see she was a teenager dressed up to look older. I was 14, and determined to get a better look. This club was divided into two sections, and minors could come in the front part to buy potato chips or pop, but not the back part where the entertainment went on. All of a sudden I developed a taste for potato chips.

I went in and fortunately for me, the guy behind the bar was busy, that gave me the opportunity to walk down the bar to get a close look; she was one of the prettiest girls I had ever seen. The "Tina Turner" you have been accustomed to seeing is pretty, but she was even prettier when she was 16; I had sweet dreams that night.

While I enjoyed listening to your submissions Mary_jo,the only one I have is "The End", and that's for a rather strange reason.

When I was into fusion, I would have bought Jeff Beck's Pork Pie Hat, but not now. The records I bought then, I hardly play now; for example;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3Cwoz_JnyM


I was really into this at that time, but I was into a lot of different things at that time. Is that "Rock" or what?

Here's one by Santana I still like;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AELE1a-3Bxo


As a matter of fact, I'm a Santana fan; is he "Rock"?

Rok, this is "doo wop";


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBT3oDMCWpI


This is Rock and Roll;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgdufzXvjqw


Somehow I can not accept that these two are of the same genre.

I don't know if it's apparent to everyone else, but when I listen to all this music, it's apparent to me, that I have been through many phases of music in life; when I was young and extremely active, I was more into music that reflected that; rock to some extent. Now that I'm more inactive, I want to be in a reflective groove;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxz9eZ1Aons


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CutrIZzTJl0


It's fair to say that while I don't find some Rock unappealing, I wouldn't rush out and buy it.

Frogman, I woke up this morning, and this is the music that resonated; do you have any comments?


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ_cUm0sr6c&index=2&list=PLIeVTsm02i1B9_XeOyHqjspQifdWvSlz6

Music with scenery;


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlPOldBxxVs

This is some of the most beautiful music ever written, it has resonated down through the ages.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23x59neYlJ8

While I have maintained "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", which is a subjective stance; there is some music that's objectively beautiful, and if the beholder disagrees with this music, he should have his eyes checked.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIJZSs2gxdo


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLsg_Lk819s

Diana Krall with a distinctive Spanish accent, interesting.


In 2009, Cesaria Evora was made a knightess of the French Legion of Honour by the French French Minister of Culture and Communications Christine Albanel, the first Cape Verdean who became one.

Horace Silver's Father is also from the Cape Verdean Islands; hence song for my Father has an island lilt; The Album I'm speaking of.


Since I have no idea where those islands are, I asked "Wikipedia"


      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Verde


I have her in compilations but not a complete album, that must be corrected.

There is a case for it, but somebody has to file a law suit.  Law suits have been filed and won; I just read about one recently where the wrongdoers paid out big, but it took years.

Frogman, I was not speaking of a single CD, but when you get a bunch of CD's in a box set that looks like a super bargain. I'll go for the single CD's.

That one you submitted has got to be boss; here is one of my favorite cuts from that set;


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEjYm6iRZ1o


This is the longest cut from "Up At Mintons".


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qslqo9fvYzs&list=PL750EB0C04C34D457

I'm sure I've posted this, but for those who haven't seen it; here's Stanley Turrentine with "Salt Song"


          https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stanley+turrentine+salt+song


Out of all the albums I like by Stanley, this is my favorite; I like every single solitary note on this album.

Frogman, were you familiar with "Sonny Cris"? That CD I had by him was purchased a long time ago at a real nice place where you could review CD's on headphones, buy books of all kinds, or have a glass of wine. It's too bad we don't have places like that anymore; there are a lot of reasons for that.

We, the citizens, don't realize that some things that go wrong in our society are because we don't look into the reasons why they went wrong.

Any thread, every thread, is a good one to discuss things of this nature. I don't believe audiophiles have any idea of how many things have gone wrong in the last 20 years that should not have gone wrong; I do.

Music is a composite picture of everything about you; where you were born, when you were born, your life experiences, and your personality.

I see no reason to "cultivate" a taste for anything; just let it flow, and let everything find you, that's the natural order of things, and they work best that way.

As an example, I have a CD titled "The World's Best Classical Music", and I can hardly get past the first cut; that's the natural order of things, that's the way it's supposed to be.

Ghosthouse, when you expressed your disdain for the "standards" in jazz, that said it all. Enjoy whatever you find that's enjoyable, and leave the rest; go on life's merry journey with a song in your heart, and a smile on your face.

That's my advice for the day, and there is no charge, that was free.

Ghosthouse, "Oregon" is nice, they are well represented in my collection. Whether or not it's jazz "What difference does it make"? It's good music.

Like I said in my last post "Go with the flow that is you" We can't all like the same music.

Ghosthouse, I appreciate your honesty, more than anything in regard to music that's new to you. Currently I'm into "old school" Jimmy Smith, and I would like your opinion of this music.

You can't be expected to like it as well as me and other aficionados, because I heard this music when it was brand new, and I couldn't wait to get to the record store to get the latest "Jimmy Smith". This was when he was making albums with Kenny Burrell on guitar; that was a pair made in heaven. Two of my favorites were "Motorin Along" and "All Day Long"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUVDk0BCYxs


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4Qg7tAEGQw


Enjoy the music.

Ghosthouse, that would be nice to meet up at a luncheonette like Kate's; it was at a place like that I had lunch and met with a friend, who played "Motorin Along" on the jukebox there every time we met.

It's a funny thing about those old "Tube jukeboxes"; they were my first exposure to "high end" and I didn't even know it. I didn't even know why I liked the much prettier SS Boxes a lot less when they made the changeover.

I don't like to repeat, so be sure and tell me if you've heard this before. "Oregon" reminded me of a group I liked a lot, that I was buying at about the same time I bought "Oregon"; that was the group "Shadowfax". Here is "One Thousand Teardrops".


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQY0rA5W574


They also had the best recording quality I had been exposed to. If you liked Oregon, I imagine you liked this group as well.


Enjoy the music.

I hope you're enjoying "Shadofax"; I'll peruse my collection and see what else I can find by them.

While my collection might be 90% "jazz jazz", even steak everyday would get boring; this side trip is proving to be quite interesting.

Enjoy the music.

Ghosthouse, I'm surprised that you liked "Bright Mississippi", but it encompasses many cultures and goes back a long way; a wide range of people like it, that indicates how broad that "Nawlins" thing is.

I just found "Ancient Future"; their music is akin to "Shadow Fax", I posted a few cuts before, now I'll see if I can find some new cuts to post.

This one is from the CD "Asian Fusion"

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKMRAUlAB6E


This is from the CD "Dreamchaser"


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ViRD6ZoGM8


Between the two CD's you might find something that will catch your ear.


Enjoy the music.

When the Ganges and the Mississippi meet, we get the New Delhi Delta blues;


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez-oEsg1uw0

Santana's "Black Magic Woman" to go with black lights that made ladies stockings glow in the dark, and hot pink was my favorite color; those were the days.

"The Prisoner" by Art Pepper, was most certainly one of his best.

This is my first time hearing Erik Satie: Gnossienne; it sounds a little like "Marche Slave"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwqdOhF6LhE


In regard to music "resonating", it depends on the time of day, the weather, the humidity plus more factors than I am aware of; what I'm saying is I can like something one day and not like it the next; the last two fall in that category.

Yes Frogman, right from the opening notes you can tell he is a true Spanish guitar master; I'll have to check out more of his works.

I had trouble finding Fats Navarro when I was looking, it seems you've struck gold.

Mingus wrote a lot about "Theodore Navarro" in his autobiography.

That music and "Fats" really capture the essence of that time; this music is like a time machine that takes you back to another day when "Bop" was cool.

I'm almost afraid to mention Quincy Jones music because of the controversy, but his music is undeniably good, even if his mental state is questionable.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6A3qT8_vWg


This is one boss jam, and I don't think it's in my collection, but it will be.


Quincy has been a part of so much fantastic music; I prefer we focus on the music and leave the controversy for others. Do you have any of Quincy's music you would like to share?

By the way I'll search for the albums that are in my collection.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebvHk62DUtA

Pryso, I told you we had the same collection; I bought "My Fair Lady" in the Fall of 59.

You guys are really submitting some beautiful music; I gave it "the once over" to confirm that, but I'm going to settle back and savor every last note later on.



Rok, who can ever forget Sergio Mendes and Brazil 66; absolutely fantastic!




Acman, that Previn was most tasteful, one of my favorites;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwEuR2TtW5c



Rok, that Lester Young with the Oscar Peterson Trio, is one that I will have to get.

Pryso, I only remember early purchases because I was in the Air Force, and each new album was an event that we shared with other airmen; consequently, I remember the party surrounding the reviewing of the album. (any event was an excuse for a party). But more current albums, I only have a vague idea when I purchased them, the same as you.

Getz's "Focus" is his most interesting album;


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXxybiV4Pxs&list=PLfOleD7-7Oj90W890D0puroQgM7yTR-0P

Inna, as you know, we are in full agreement on "Shakti", but this thread is titled "Jazz for Aficionados"; according to the letter of the law.......But this thread has never heeded the letter of the law.

I have a lot of John McLaughlin on Vinyl from before CD.

Some better Flamenco from Paco De Lucia


            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBfxZQbCBs0



Paco 'Maleguena'



          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_yvYU5hJ_A



Enjoy

How about just plain old "Spanish Guitar"


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oyhlad64-s


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9efHwnFAkuA



With a little Mexico thrown in;


  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIJZSs2gxdo

Fourwnds, I don't have it, but I will get it.


Zawinul Syndicate 75th Lugano 2007 - Orient Express -. I see that Amazon has it, but I didn't see the LP's I would like to have. That music runs on two tracks at the same time; one is quite intricate; which is Zawinul's nature, and the other is rhythmic, the one Sabine is on.

Is that LP for 23.98 the one you are referring to, is that the double LP? If it is I'll order it tonight.

Inna, can you connect with this;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7VxvMLz1kI


The reason I ask is because I'm going to make the transition from Zawinul in fusion day to the present.