oyaide emphasizes more on the treble when comparing to matrix. however, it feels lighter too. it can be a bit (just a bit) too much treble on some recordings but still not harsh feeling. matrix is smoother and fuller. maybe details are a bit more and individual instruments are better seperated on matrix. overall matrix is better balance on everything. both of them are excellent cables.
NEW Cerious Technologies Upgrade - Graphene Matrix Cables
CT Graphene Matrix Cables:
I have been using the CT GE cables for almost two years.
I recently traded up for a full loom of CT Graphene Matrix cables, including speaker, interconnect and PCs, and I wanted to share my experience. I started by replacing only the ICs to try and hear the differences.
The new Matrix interconnects sounded better than the GE immediately after install. I found the original Graphene Extreme ICs to be good but not on the same level as the outstanding GE speaker cables. As break-in started to clear things up, I can hear more clarity and detail not heard before. The ICs are incredible on their own and at the 30 hour mark, I can hear a clear superiority over the GE ICs. I recently started using the Teo Game Changer ICs and preferred them over GE but the Teo has now fallen to the new Graphene Matrix ICs. My Teo’s were and are great, and it is stunning to experience Cerious Technologies commitment to making great technology better.
On the third day of listening to the GM ICs. I couldn’t wait anymore, Having too much fun. I then installed the speaker cables and power cords once I had a pretty good feel for the sound of the GM ICs.
With the full loom of GM cables running in they are going through some strange changes and definitely need time to settle down before realizing what they can really do and very important Bob says to not move them. Since I have a home office I can let them run in all day. I’m at around 120 hours now and they are still improving. Here’s what I’m hearing:
Extended highs and tighter lows.
More detail and better low level listening
Drums are tighter, more clearly defined. So real is the snap of the snare drum. The bass has more depth, seemingly goes deeper, lower. This aspect stands out the most.
I am not in the industry, I’m not an engineer, I don’t work for Cerious Technologies, but I am a fan of the cables and am enjoying what my system is capable of.
I’m closer to my own pinnacle of sound reproduction than ever before.
Lance
I have been using the CT GE cables for almost two years.
I recently traded up for a full loom of CT Graphene Matrix cables, including speaker, interconnect and PCs, and I wanted to share my experience. I started by replacing only the ICs to try and hear the differences.
The new Matrix interconnects sounded better than the GE immediately after install. I found the original Graphene Extreme ICs to be good but not on the same level as the outstanding GE speaker cables. As break-in started to clear things up, I can hear more clarity and detail not heard before. The ICs are incredible on their own and at the 30 hour mark, I can hear a clear superiority over the GE ICs. I recently started using the Teo Game Changer ICs and preferred them over GE but the Teo has now fallen to the new Graphene Matrix ICs. My Teo’s were and are great, and it is stunning to experience Cerious Technologies commitment to making great technology better.
On the third day of listening to the GM ICs. I couldn’t wait anymore, Having too much fun. I then installed the speaker cables and power cords once I had a pretty good feel for the sound of the GM ICs.
With the full loom of GM cables running in they are going through some strange changes and definitely need time to settle down before realizing what they can really do and very important Bob says to not move them. Since I have a home office I can let them run in all day. I’m at around 120 hours now and they are still improving. Here’s what I’m hearing:
Extended highs and tighter lows.
More detail and better low level listening
Drums are tighter, more clearly defined. So real is the snap of the snare drum. The bass has more depth, seemingly goes deeper, lower. This aspect stands out the most.
I am not in the industry, I’m not an engineer, I don’t work for Cerious Technologies, but I am a fan of the cables and am enjoying what my system is capable of.
I’m closer to my own pinnacle of sound reproduction than ever before.
Lance
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No experience yet on the Matrix but the Oyaide Tunami Terzo V2 is a very good sounding cable and will embarrass cables upward of $1.5K+ and we are talking about $200 cables bought directly from an authorized distributor in Japan. I discovered the beauty of Oyaide SSC 102 about 2 months ago after hearing many rave about their Black Mamba V2 PC and it is fantastic; replaced my full loom of Nanotec # 308 and 1 CTE Red with these and couldn’t be happier. This DIY PC can be made for $130 total with Parts Connexion Rhodium AC Plug Set. It’s the latest copper techniques that’s driving the performance of this cable, hence the name SSC which is pure copper with a conductivity of 102. This is an Outstanding product and yields a greater performance ratio than replacing a fuse and of course it is all system dependent. Wig :) |
Received my Matrix speaker cables today to go with the Matrix interconnects I already have.To say they are,right out of the box, a significant improvement over the previous generation of CT speaker cables would be an understatement. They are amazing. The construction is first class and equal to or better then any I have had. Every aspect of the musical presentation has improved. Details as I get more along...Thanks Bob. |
@t_ramey Here are a few links for BM V2 DIY: https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/chuya-online/item/92481/ Rhodium AC Set: http://www.partsconnexion.com/product33233.html BM V2 Professionally built: https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/chuya-online/item/92479/ I used Paypal for checkout and you will receive a second e-mail within 24 hrs. with your total order amount including shipping; the link will be embedded in the e-mail to pay using paypal. This cable has a drain wire and should only be connected at AC plug with the ground. Wig |
So the Oyaide TUNAMI GPX-R V2 is the flagship? I didn't even know that existed. I already have the Black Mamba V2 (professionally built one) on the way. Darn at those cheaper prices I would have rather gone for the "flagship" at 300.00 than the lower performing Black Mamba cable at 200.00. That is of course if the Oyaide TUNAMI GPX-R V2 is truly the better performer Than the Black Mamba V2. I guess it could be system dependent. Anyone know sonically what the difference between these two PCs would be? I thought about trying the Matrix PC, but the inflexibility of the cord is keeping me away so far. |
@littlecx What's your take on the difference between the Mamba V2 and Tunami V2? And have you had a Cerious Tech Graphene Extreme pc before? My Cerious Tech Matrix pc is pretty awesome on both my integrated amp and also when I've tried it on my Panasonic tv. Everything across the spectrum is just great. I ordered a Black Mamba V2 just to see how it fares with the other pc's I've been trying lately. |
Preassembled PC can be bought here but look around this site to see if the Tunami V2 is available as well since I never considered that one because I wanted neutrality over a slightly warm PC. I believe 1.8M is all that's available for preassembled PC but you can build one yourself and save a little money. My cables arrived within 7-10 days.
Wig |
. Right or wrong, I use cables to offset the nature of my recordings with the gear. Sometimes it can be challenging to get a system to relax a little and I just don't think neutral cables cut it in that department. So based on my preference I would want a warmer PC and it sounds like the Graph. Matrix may work. But first things first, I am going to keep an open mind and try out the Black Mamba V2 I already have on the way. |
The Matrix power cable is just different than every cable I've heard thus far. I'm not sure you can describe it in terms of neutral or warm, it's like in another realm of understanding sound if that makes any sense. It's so real and natural that you don't think about if it's too this or too that. At least this has been my experience so far with just one Matrix pc on my integrated amp and the rest GE cables on everything else. |
Based upon my experience with the CTG speaker cables and I assume the Matrix is similar, (if I'm incorrect someone please correct me) moving the speaker cables after they are broken in will cause them to sound different but they should settle in when relocated a lot faster. Not the same as the HFC products which has to go through the process of regaining magnetic conduction. |
Just a 'hats off' to Bob for the nice job he's done with the Matrix line. I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, but i received my pc today. Everything from packaging to build quality to parts looks and feels super. I realize that sound is of 1st priority,and soon that will be revealed, but so far , impresive. Thanks Bob |
tuffy72561, I have not personally compared the two but a friend said the BM V2 was more transparent but you really can't go wrong with either at this price point. The Hallmark of these cables are refinement and precision, everything is laid out much better with sharper images and super black backgrounds; music just start and stops so much faster, not to mention that the soundstage is wider and deeper. Wig |
lak, I own the Nanotec 308 and the Furutech DPS-4 cables. On both types I have installed Furutech NCF nano connectors. In my opinion the DPS-4 is better suited for digital (because of all the shielding) and the 308 is better suited for amps, preamps etc. At this point, I have not tried Bob's Cerious Matrix power cords to compare, but I would like to. ozzy |
new Matrix speaker cables continue to evolve. The music, with them in, is so much more emotionally involving then with the previous CT cables.Guitar strumming is so tight and you can hear each string as its hit within the soundstage. Previous background instruments are so much more prominent now.The combination of the Matrix i/c and speaker cable has truly taken my system's sound to a 'new level'.So natural sounding.Vocal intonations are just so much more 'you are there'...more later... |
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I did a quick a/b yesterday with a 308, s022n, dps-4, and Matrix on my Melody AN-845 integrated. Then did one on my Lampi Atlantic Plus dac with the 308, dsp-4, and s022n. On the 308, s022n, and dsp-4 have the same rhodium carbon fiber plugs that I think Mike at Tweek Geek uses as a cost effective option to the Furutech FI-50’s and on the s022n and dsp-4 I grounded the shield only on the AC plug end and have put Furutech nano liquid on the contact wires on all cables, except the Matrix of course. Now it would be much better to let each cable sit in the system for several days and then switch but I know my aural memory would not be so good for the previous cable, I guess I could take notes but I’m not interested in going that far... On both the amp and dac I much preferred the dsp-4 to the 308. Much more natural and closer to the Matrix cable while the 308 to me seems just a little more digital sounding by comparison and can see if one has a warmer sounding system it would fit nicely. The s022n to me kinda falls in between these two and for the price of diy is a great option. Wherever I put the s022n I like it and it’s been one of my favorite cables as but I do think the dps-4 is better but for a lot more money. The Matrix takes everything on the dsp-4 to another level with a lower noise floor and a notch better in realism. I could probably live with the dsp-4 but after hearing the Matrix now I can’t go back. Just me and my ears in my system so all this could be quite different for someone else. These are all great cables and feel it’s just a matter of fit for ones taste and system. I do have a Black Mamba V2 on the way to compare later on. |
Lancelock since you have wired your entire system with Cerious Technology have you since made any changes to your cable loom specifically your CT power cords for any reason. ? I like CTs choice of specific power cord duties for system needs specifically what I’m looking for are power cords for low current components that specify low capacitance wire to perform optimally. |
