Sound Quality of red book CDs vs.streaming
@georgehifi "Why is the Linn CD12 sounding better than their downloads?"I didn't mean Linn's downloads, I meant the downloads the owner of the HD servers with downloaded music on them they bought to compare to my Linn CD12. Cheers George |
I have not yet gotten into a streaming service though I understand the value of having access to a vast catalog of music.Trouble with streaming you don’t know what version of the album your getting, some have had the daylights compressed out of them. This is what I use to find the most dynamic version type in your artist and album. "more green/highest right side number". click on it and find the cat no. then search for a used cd on ebay. Latest are usually more compressed I noticed. http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Pink+Floyd&album=The+Wall For this The Wall the top one 1991 I’d go for trouble is there’s no cat no for it, just that’s it’s a South African one. Next best is half way down and it has two cat no.s C2K-36183 / C2K-36185 http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/92174 https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=C2K-36183&_sacat=0&... https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/pink-floyd-the-wall-c2k-36183.62279/page-2 Cheers George |
I guess my question should have been more pointed: how do you know what mastering you are getting on a streaming service?You don’t, they usually go with the latest, which unfortunately most are more compressed than the originals 10-20 years ago. That’s why I don’t stream or download, I stick with the silver disc. Just for interest have a look at Adel 21 on the DR website, I really liked it in the car on the radio. I bought the cd played it once when I got it on my home rig, and was shocked how compressed it was, and couldn’t send it back quick enough. http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Adel&album=21 Cheers George |
My Aurender conductor app gives me complete details on original album release date, remastered year and the file bits. Aurender streams via Tidal Trouble is do you have to purchase it first to get all the info? You good with that one anyway as it’s the only version released. http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Dexter+Gordon&album=Doin%27+Allright Cheers George |
lalitk1Just had a listen to the samples, and you can hear on the samples the DR site is right, it wasn’t compressed too much at all also done by "Blue Note" they don’t compress. Sounded good I might get it S/H on CD https://www.allmusic.com/album/doin-allright-mw0000200382 Just bought this double of him from Blue Note new for $20aud with yours and "A Swinging Affair" could be remastered. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dexter-Gordon-2-For-1-Doin-Allright-A-Swingin-Affair-CD-2-Blue-Note-NEW/... Cheers George |
Compression is also a good thing when listening to music casually.Yes this is so true, the only times are when: 1: dinner parties 2: background music 3: in lifts 4: when your on the phone 5: not to blow up ear buds or your ears 6: and to stop the wife from saying turn it down during crescendo’s 7: also in the car so the road noise doesn’t mask the low level parts. Think of it this way, what sounds in real natural life are compressed? NONE! So why do it to our music when we want to listen to it seriously in all it’s dynamic wonder??? Cheers George |
Having music free of any compression, gives you more space to listen to your music louder, and your brain likes it, and enjoys the building crescendo's, as then it's not so relentless and fatiguing that you have to turn it down if it were compressed. Like I said above, the only time compression works for music, is when its not the main consideration to be listened to, when it's a silence filler, noise masker or earbud/ear-drum saver. 1: dinner parties 2: background music 3: in lifts 4: when your on the phone 5: not to blow up ear buds or your ears 6: and to stop the wife from saying turn it down during crescendo’s 7: in the car so the road noise doesn’t mask the low level parts. 8: late at night when everyone else asleep. Cheers George |
You may find this will be better than all of them. Naims new $25-30K flagship Reference R2R Multibit ND555 + power supply, network player still using the PCM1704 dac converters. http://www.theaudiobeat.com/news/naim_nd555.htm Cheers George |
My streamed movies from VUDU are identical to the same played from a Blu-Ray disk. VUDU is better.Many don't agree " VUDU transfers UHD at a bitrate of about 15mbps while 4k UHD discs can reach 50-60 mbps. That’s ALOT of compression on VUDUs side." https://www.google.com/search?q=VUDU+HD+quality+bad&rlz=1C1CHZL_enAU820AU820&oq=VUDU+HD+qual... https://www.reddit.com/r/vudu/comments/7pxeux/vudu_4k_uhd_streaming_vs_4k_uhd_bluray/ Cheers George |
That is why Hi-res does not garantee you anything. There are also many poor DSD and MQA recordings as well.You can get the best version with the highest DR if you feed the Artist and Album name, in to this, and 8 x out of 10 it’s the earlier releases that have the highest constant DR. Click on the one with the highest DR, get the cat no. and go buy the cd for $2 s/h on ebay, forget the re-mastered or downloaded that’s always a flip of the coin if it’s compressed of not. This Supertramp is not typical, but gives you an idea, what version to look for. http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Supertramp&album=Crime+of+the+century Cheers George |
