pwhinson
Thank You for the update. I am hoping the Paradigm Persona 9H fares well in your system too. I can tell you that something along upper Magico, Vandersteen or Von Schweikert lines will better a Thiel. Keep us posted on your Audio journey.
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beetlemania
Me as well. The DX-5 was in stock (non DSD upgrade) form. The extra musical details were amazing. Speakers- Monitor Audio PL 100 II ( 2-way monitor on stands. $5795). I am sure hoping that the SACD playback is a minor fix, minor issue. I will reach out to Ayre for a consultation. If only Charles (RIP) were still here. Happy Listening! |
pwhinson Thank You for the system information. Happy Listening! |
pwhinson
Excellent! I look forward to your assessment and review. Happy Listening! |
ekohn00
Good to see you again. I concur with Tom- check out PowerPoint 1.2s
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james63
I know exactly how you mean- I could never get into the Revel nor Aerial "sound". I do feel that B&W and Sonus Faber are very fine indeed and did consider each floorstander until I met Thiel Audio.
It is going to take a special speaker to best Thiel.
Good to see you again. Hope you are well , keep us posted as you audition other brand(s).
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bighempin My fingers are crossed for you as well. Happy Listening! |
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ronkent Thank You for citing the Serial Numbers of your speakers. Good to see you back here. Happy Listening! |
tomthiel
Hope you are well today and having fun in your hot rod garage/studio.
I have a feeling that the XO upgrade(s) for models 3.5/3.6 is going to become quite successful. These speakers are favorable among many Panel members here.
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jon_5912
I share your sentiments with the 2.2, except in my case, it is model CS 2.4. This is a speaker in which one can solely enjoy the music with the most basic of gear set-up.
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rosami
Tom offers excellent advice as always. Yes, it is possible to damage any driver from a failed XO. More to the point, a power amp clipping is certain to damage any driver. Good to see you here.
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rosami
keep us posted here on your discussions with Rob.
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brayeagle
I have the Bryston demo slated for mid March. Hope you are well today and enjoying the music. Happy Listening! |
tomthiel
Thank You for another historical perspective on Thiel Audio. I really enjoy reading these accounts, posts. I do the same when asked about other brands to consider (Vandersteen). Happy Listening! |
brayeagle nice score on the BP-17. When did your purchase this pre-amp? Happy Listening! |
james63
your memory is on target. The CS 3.7 will play louder as it is a larger, heavier, loudspeaker that can easily handle an extra 100 watts compared to the CS 2.4 / 2.4SE models. The CS 3.7 requires a little more current as well in order to fill larger space correctly.
It does feature the same house sound or tonal balance that we all love so well. One can count on an appropriate, wider soundstage. The 2.4 / 2.4SE will not fill the same larger room as a 3.7 model.
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brayeagle
Very nice upgrade as the BP-26 is a real workhorse for Bryston. In fact, the BP-26 has a lower noise floor especially for Vinyl lovers. More to follow. Happy Listening! |
beetlemania
Tom raised an excellent point on the smaller driver weighing less, moving less air and being more nimble. During my comparison(s) between the 2.4SE, 2.7 and 3.7 models, delicacy, is the precise conclusion I reached (without knowing these masterful details). To my ears delicacy, micro dynamics and subtleties, are inter-changeable. Sublime can be substituted as well. Happy Listening!
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beetlemania
No doubt that you guys will improve the sonic signature, widen the sonic gap with your respective XO upgrades. I look forward to hearing each final configuration from both of you. Thank You for tackling this wonderful opportunity head-on. Happy Listening! |
tomthiel
very interesting developments circa 1979/1980. Good to learn that more people are entering into the equation for you DIY guys. There are a few 3.5 owners here that would like to see/hear an improved XO in addition to the ones already staged. Keep up the outstanding work and have fun!
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beetlemania
Yes. I found the CS 2.4SE to have superior microdynamics compared to the 2.4, 2.7 and 3.7 as outlined above. This discovery during my sessions was not a day v. night enlightenment. My ears favored the SE by a very close margin. Happy Listening! |
bluetone Welcome! Nice score on the 1.2 and 3.5 models. The 3.5 is a real favorite here among owners. I look forward in reading more about you and your musical tastes. Happy Listening! |
pwhinson
Thank You for the A3 follow up. There are audiophiles who enjoy the dark and/or rolled treble sound to be sure. Besides the Constellation integrated, what other gear including cabling was in this system? I look forward in reading about your next Audio journey entry.
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ketchup Thank You for sharing your 3.5 story. Which loudspeaker replaced Thiel in your system? Happy Listening! |
ketchup
Much Thanks! for citing a portion of your Audio journey. It has been said many times that a Thiel speaker is an Apogee or Magnepan with Bass.A long time ago I wanted an Apogee Slant 8 model. It was heavily criticized for not having enough Bass output. The ribbon/stat midrange, tweeter panels sounded beautiful to my ears. I could not get into the sound of a Maggie nor Martin Logan though. Happy Listening!
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andy2
Absolutely! The CS 2.4 is a true marvel, at least for my ears.The CS 2.4SE is a measure better across all frequency ranges. Last month's visit and session with pwhinson served as a strong reminder. Hope you are close to Beetle or Tom to hear their improvements upon final configuration. Happy Listening!
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silvanikThank You for sharing your experience and support with Rob Gillum.It never is a poor decision to have a spare set of back-up drivers. Salute.
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jackskyexcellent points of view on the whole Thiel/Vandy conversation.I thought that a Vandy 3A Signature was closest, not better than, the CS 2.4 model. Never heard the 5/5A. I did demo the Quattro and Treo but could not get into thier presentation/sound? Happy Listening!
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laserjock1963
Welcome! $1300 for a pair of CS 2.4 is an excellent value. Go For It!Revel is not even close to a Thiel Audio loudspeaker as above. Keep us posted should you decide to purchase. I look forward in reading more about you and your system. Happy Listening!
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jackskyThank You for the audio perfectionist tip. Happy Listening!
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marqmike
Precisely! I found many things were missing during sessions with Revel.Balanced but could not engage my ears. Happy Listening!
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jacksky
Thank You for the link. I will check it out. Happy Listening!
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ronkentThank You for posting as Sound Anchors are very much accommodating to those that cannot find Thiel Outriggers. Happy Listening!
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tomic601
Excellent news! Good to read the speakers arrived in pristine condition. Thank You for citing the serial numbers as well. Keep us posted as you massage these loudspeakers into your room/system.
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pwhinsonbrings up an excellent report. As I am finding out, Atlanta, has a strong history with Thiel Audio. I receive many emails and PM away from here that states these facts. These gentlemen still own several different models.
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tomic601Thank You for the initial report. What gear including cabling in in the CS 2.3 system? I look forward in reading more reports as the speakers bloom.
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tomthiel
Can you remember where Havens & Hardesty was located?
Brilliant! idea to move the XO to a bottom panel bypassing the driver network. You guys are doing amazing things. Keep up the outstanding work.
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ronkentThank You for suggesting brass footers as a substitute to outriggers or sound anchors. Happy Listening!
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tomic601
Thank You for the historical perspective on Havens and Hardesty.Always good to read about existing Audio shops still operational in 2019.Seattle has a few as well as Portland.
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beetlemania
Thank You for the continued hard work and testimony regarding the XO trials. Happy Listening!
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tomthiel -
as always, thoughtful perspectives. On my first listen to a Thiel, I certainly "got it" or was "it got me"? As luck played its part, I had heard the Vandy 2 series a few times previously. To my ears, any differences between these (2) brands were not subtle. I found my loudspeaker brand on that Spring day. Not only was the weather beautiful there in Baltimore MD so was the aural experience. Testimony, is the highest compliment.
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jon_5912
I,too, crossed into the light from a B&W 805 model. Richer textures and timbre caught my earbrain instantly. I saw no need to further research other loudspeaker manufacturers. Oh, Happy Day!
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james63
good guess- $8-10 K depending on finish in 2019 money. I look forward in reading more about your new loudspeaker search. Happy Listening!
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