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Best MM?

I want to try a MM with my Herron VTPH-2a. What's the best one? Maestro 2, Zephyr III, AT VM760SLC? Something else?
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chakster
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@orpheus10 

The Pickering and Stanton cartridges I saw on the jukeboxes were Mono, just like the music on those 45's. Some people claim it's better than stereo.
  
As i said earlier in this post High-End cartridges does not comes with a Jukebox, but it would be nice to have analog jukebox for free. Also Jukeboxes does not comes with High-End cartridges from Stanton/Pickering. In my opinion stereo is better than mono, 99% of my vintage 45s are stereo. I like stereo better than mono. 

Sorry i've never tried a Koetsu, but if you will check the link below you will find comparison between Fidelity-Research FR-7 series versus Koetsu Coralstone. The price for FR-7f and even for FR-7fz (the best one) is still much cheaper than Koetsu.  

Old thread: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/mc-cartridge-mini-shootout-spu-koetsu-fr-ikeda 

And updates: https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/fidelity-research-cartridges?highlight=fidelity-research%2Bcartridges 

orpheus10
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Ckakster, jukeboxes in the city were the only high end; maybe you're thinking of jukeboxes in "podunk". Gangsters fought wars over whose jukebox would be where.

I would not have fed those jukeboxes with quarters for jive time music; they were composed of state of the art parts, like custom tube amps, beside the best cartridges and 45 turntable.

Jukeboxes were the only high end in the 60's for the ordinary person.
orpheus10
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Chakster, the cartridges on jukeboxes were quite visible, and that brush on the end of the Pickering cartridge was unforgettable.

The jukeboxes I'm talking about were in sophisticated lounges that also featured live entertainment. The same professionals that installed sound systems in high end salons, also installed them in these lounges. Evidently you have no idea how important the sound system and music was to a lounge.

    These were among the cartridges they used;


        https://www.google.com/search?q=pickering+xv-15+625e&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=6...:
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halcro
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Among those of us on this thread, only a few who have taken the mega-expensive leap are qualified to dispute the proposition.

You actually don't need to own these 'uber-cartridges' to 'hear' them Lew.....
Fremer has been uploading high-res digital rips of various cartridge tests on his Analogue Planet Website for a while now, and not one of them has ever had the expensive LOMC (like the Anna and Atlas SL) as the winner (voted by the readers) against cheap current MM cartridges....
Why does this fact not resonate with wealthy audiophiles....?
See Raul's answer 🤥
Here is a Link to WTBF where you can actually hear YouTube uploads of uber-priced cartridges like VdH Colibri Master Signature ($12,000), Air Tight Opus 1 ($15,000), Clearaudio Goldfinger Statement ($16,000), Lyra Atlas SL ($13,000).
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/hear-it-yourself.26355/

Be aware that these cartridges are playing on a new $200,000 turntable  through $300,000 horn speakers.
The music is unfortunately undemanding.....but listen carefully and tell me that you haven't heard equivalent sound from cheaper cartridges in your systems.....?!
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nandric
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I am sorry if I look pedantic but I want to clear some confusion.

The confusion between quantifiers like ''all'' and ''some'' which we

use to express generality and numerical quantifiers like, say,

there are exactly  30 carts in my collection. My experience is

that the most easy way to explain (universal) quantifiers is:

''someone has stollen my car''. One can also say that the

difference is as between variables and names. If one ''sees''

variables as places were a name should be put in order to

complete a sentence and get an idea about the reference .

So individual statement about ''the best carts'' even by Raul

whom we assume to own the ''biggest collection of carts''

can only apply  to certain ''numerical quantifier''. Say 120.

I assume that he can count so he can ''discover'' how many

carts he owns. We will than know about how many carts he

pretend to judge ''which is the best'' among them.

More to discover