Lets not pick on Shane. He is justifiably infatuated with one of the best dd turntables of all time and surely one that is in the hunt for THE best. My only point is that there is more than one way to skin the cat. I have not (yet) heard a P3 in my system, but the L07D blows away my SP10 Mk2, and I will soon be able to say how it fairs against my SP10 Mk3. The similarity in approach between the L07D and the Bardo leads me to believe the latter must be superb as well, given the skill of manufacture and quality level exhibited by all other Brinkmann products. BTW, I have not measured, but I would estimate that it takes about 3 seconds for the L07D to reach 33 without the peripheral platter ring and record weight and about 5 seconds with them installed. But then, the L07D platter even with the augmentation is probably lower mass than that of the Bardo. I usually spend the time considering the meaning of life. I do agree that the Brinkmann "white paper" is very unfair to the vintage decks.