My system is bright? I need help. thanks


Hi. it is my first time here in this forum. i would appreciate input and help from all of you. No sacrasm or bad langauge please. I had bad experience with other forums in that aspect. music loving people and audiophiles should be an elite, high caliber and classy community. This is rare to find today. Ok Down to the point.

My system
Musical fidelity kw 500 sacd player. I use the tube output.
Musical fidelity kw 500 integrated amp.
speakers:eggleston andra (not andra 2)
speaker cable: satori acoustic zen
interconnects: Nordost baldur and nordost quatrofil RCA
USe a dedicated 20 amp line with regular power cords(came with the gear) and a panamax 20 amp surge protector and filter.

This is in my family room so there is little room for treatment and moving things around.

problem: bright. the highs are killing my ears, after 1-2 hours of listening my ears start to hurt,sometimes 3 minutes. I have to turn the volume down. I tried postioning, it got a little better. I will try acoustic zen silver ref II may be it will help. The sound is otherwise phenomenal, i could be happy with more bass, but overall it is very good. Depth, tranparency, acuity and soundstaging are great. As for mids, i can see the person infront of me,I can hear the articulation of the tongue in the mouth before the words and tunes comes out. no kidding, but not for long because of fatigue.

I would really appreciate your input.
Scientist73
scientist73
I got the AZ interconnects and tried them all day.
I did not feel a lot of difference between the two except that the silver is a little more detailed.

HOWEVER, IT IS BY FAR MUCH ,MUCH,MUCH BETTER THAN THE NORDOST IN MY SYSTEM. GUYS FOR THE FIRST TIME I COULD LISTEN FOR MORE THAN 7 HOURS TOTAL . i TRIED ALL THE CDS THAT WERE HARSH TO MY EAR ESPESCAILLY THE RIGHT EAR WHERE I THINK I AM GETTINF SOME REFLECTION FROM THE WOODEN UNIT AND THE GRANITE FIREPLACE. ALL OF THEM SOUNDED GOOD.

THRE HIGHS ARE MUCH NICER, I DON'T WANT TO SAY MUFFLED, THEY ARE THERE BUT NOT IN MY EAR ANY MORE.

SO AFTER HOOKING THE AMP DIRECTLY TO THE OUTLET THIS WAS A GOOD MOVE.
NEXT IS THE POWER
I AM EXPECTING SHYUNYATA HYRA, I WILL TRY IT FOR THE AMP AND THE CD PLAYER, HERE IS MY PLAN

I WILL SAVE SOME MONEY FOR I GOT BIG HOLES IN MY POCKET NOW

I WANT TO GET THE SHUNYATA ANACONDA FOR THE POWER AMP
SHYNYATA PYTHON HELIX ALPHA TO THE HYDRA 2 AND PYTHON Vx TO THE CD PLAYER.
I MAY CALL THE ELECTRICIAN TO INTALL HOSPITAL GRADE 20 AMP WALL OUTLET. THE ONE I HAVE MY BE POOR QUALITY

WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK ABOUT THIS BUDGET KILLING PLAN. iF THIS DOES NOT WORK, I WILL SELL MY CD AND FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO DO, JUST KIDDING
It seems to me you moved your speakers, heard a difference which is normal, but gave up before you had dialed the placement in properly. When you moved them, did you do it incrementally as I suggested, listening after each small adjustment for the position in which the music snapped into place? Or, did you rather move them a foot at once and then listen? When you moved them farther apart, did you then incrementally adjust the toe-in? I don't believe you did. Otherwise, your report here would be different. I believe you made a fairly large adjustment. Listened and didn't like it, and then moved them to their original position, which is not the optimum placement. My apologies if I have this scenario wrong.

Of course moving them is going to result in a different sound. That's entirely the point. You are complaining about your sound. You want to improve it. I know with absolute certainty that part of the problem you have with the sound is due to the present placement of your loudspeakers. I also know it seems easier to throw money at power conditioning and power cords, but in the end, after you have spent all the money, your system will still not sound its best.

Your desire to jump into spending money is a common thing, but you're buying a fancy carriage before you know your horse.
Tvad, you've summed it up nicely. Speaker positioning is not the only issue he didn't get optimum sound from his system. He didn't have a dedicated room and most importantly there is little or no provisions made to room treatments as brought up earlier in the thread, which is the single most important parameter that can make or break a system. We don't know about his room acoustics nor can we make any accurate judgements based on pictures alone. I believe since he cannot improve on these, he had no choice but to resort to other alternatives as what he's been currently doing. Well, at least there are some perceived improvements now and hope he don't go burning too much holes in his pockets along the process.
Guys. thanks to all of you. My problem is the room too. Although i had sonus faber drand piano in this roon they were so great, it is when i got the andra and the new gear as an upgrade, an expensive upgrade that i ran in to all these problems.

the wall infrom of me and the wall to my right, these 2 walls making the right angle are problem, there is no left wall as it is the entrance.

the front wall. from left to right, you are facing it

1-wet bar: 4 feet wide, 1.5 ft deep and 2 feet high.
2- a 1.5 foot space, only the wall. infront is the left andra 1.5 feet from the wall
3- gear cabinet: 5 feet wide, 1.5 ft deep 1 foot hight.
4- an empty area where there is only the wall for about 4 feet until you meet the wooden built in cabinet of the right wall. in this space is the right andra 1.5 ft away from the wall and next to it is the definitive teeh super cube 1 close to the wall.
both adra are fewinches away from the gear cabinet.
as you can see for the left speaker i can't move it side ways as it bounded by the wetbar and the geart cabinet ican pull it way forward but it will be in the way. i have more freedom with the right andra.

the right wall is a hube wall to wall wooden unit with a granite fireplace in the center.

my sofa were i listen is right infron the gear cabinet about 8 feet or more.
between both andras about 5-6 feet.

u hope this will give you an idea about the room

I HAVE ROOM IN THE BASEMENT BUT IT IS NOT FINISHED SO THE FLOOR IS CONCRETE AND THE GEAR WILL ACCUMULATE DUST VERY FAST. YOU THINK I CAN TAKE THIS SYSTEM DOWN. I MAY FREEZE IN THE WINTER, I CAN GET A HEATRE OR SOMETHING. BUT WHAY ABOUT THE DUST AND SPEAKER. THEY WILL BE ANTIQUE IN A YEAR OR 2. THE GOOD NEWS THE BASEMENT IS DRY AND NOT HUMID. LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK GUYS.ANY BODY HAD AN EXPERINCE WITH EXPENSIV EGEAR IN UNFINISHED BASEMENT.

do you get the picture.
thanks