New Tweak --- Its Fantastic
Over the good part of this past year I’ve been beta testing a new tweak, the name of which is "Total Contact." Its a hi-bred graphene contact enhancer that is different from all other contact enhancers that have come and gone for one reason or another. I’m not new to these contact enhancers, having had quite a bit of experience with a product developed by the late Brian Kyle and his "Quick Silver" contact enhancer. The "Total Contact" is different ... a LOT different.
"Total Contact" is graphene based and is not a vibration control. It eliminates micro-arching between two contacts. Micro-arching, much like Micro-vibration smears the sound in our stereo systems. Its the type of distortion that we don’t know is there .... until we eliminate it. There is no break-in as we know it. The sound is improved right off the bat, but what you hear is only a smidgen of what’s to come.
I tested three generations of "TC," each of which was an improvement over the previous incarnation. The final mix was cryogenitically treated and made for a more effective, much smoother application. It comes in a large hypodermic needle type plunger containing 1.5 ml of product and includes a instructional DVD and an application brush.
The application should be applied with a very thin coat to all of your electrical connections .... from your cartridge pins to your power cords. I did my entire system, including the ends of my fuses.
Upon initial application, you will notice an improvement in clarity, correctness of tonal balance and a more overall organic sound. But ... that is just scratching the surface of what this magic paste does. As it cures, the improvements become more apparent. Much more!
There are two real break-through events that happen almost to the day with "Total Contact," one at four weeks and another at eight weeks . At four weeks, you’ll get a real jump in clarity and overall improvement. That’s only a taste though of what’s to come at eight weeks. At eight weeks your system’s focus will make a jump in SQ that is so real - its surreal.
After 40 years in the hobby, and a total tweak nut, I have never heard anything that does what this graphene paste does. The see-through clarity at eight weeks becomes simply amazing. The "paste" eventually cures into a kind of polymer plastic and it seems that the sound improves with each listening session. So, its important that you leave your contacts alone for the duration. If you’re the type of person that continually switches wires in and out, you’ll have to re paste until enough time has elapsed to get "the cure."
The only problem I had was with the first batch and that had to do with shorting out a tube pin in the line stage. Use the "TC" very sparingly on tube pins, if at all. I only had problems with the line stage tube pins. The Amp, CD Player and Phono Stage has had no tube pin problems at all.
Tim Mrock, one of our fellow A’goners, is the developer of the product. Its taken Tim 15 years and several patents to get it right. Tim has "pasted" every electrical contact he can find in his audio system, all of the switches in his circuit breaker box, every contact in his car ... and has used it in commercial applications such as hospital circuit breakers, surgical lights ... and other places where efficiency and long life of electrical components are deemed important.
This product is highly recommended to anyone who truly wants to get the most out of his/her audio systems. There’s enough product in each tube to do at least two audio systems as it just takes a very thin coat on each application to be effective. The last tube was enough to do my system twice and then a friend’s system this past weekend.
Frank
PS: There were a couple of other A’goner beta testers of this product as well. Hopefully, they will chime in here with their experiences for comparison. I "pasted" both of Steve Fleschler’s systems a few days ago, perhaps he will comment on his results too. We forgot to paste Steve’s power cords though, so there’s a lot more to be had from Steve’s two fantastic systems.
Frank
Just a quick note from a skeptic. I just received Graphene Contact Enhancer ordered from Mad Scientist in New Zealand. Paid $25 as an experiment before considering ordering TC. I have not applied it yet but they gave a sample of a product called BlackDiscus. You can put the discus on any terminal or on top of any component. They said it will work just putting it on a table within 10 ft and the only way to shield it’s effect is to put it in a tin box. I put it on the red post on the speaker.The effect was huge. Bass sounded more stringy less thumpy,clearer vocals,better imaging,better separation and resolution. I had to bring my wife and 16 year old daughter to listen to see what they heard. Mad Scientist said the disks that you buy are even more effective than the free samples. It’s all hocus pocus to me but my ears did not lie. Wondering if you folks clean your terminals first before applying TC? Still think having a trial size to purchase might be a good marketing strategy for TC. See what it does first before shelling out $300. |
Glad you asked. I just found this tidbit from the original blurb for Xtreme AV’s Quicksilver Gold contact enhancer that was introduced about 12 years ago. In addition, there are at least a few technical papers from IEEE etc. addressing arcing and micro arcing in electrical contacts. Ditto the dissimilar metals issue I mentioned. “Machined and/or plated electrical contacts, when viewed under a microscope, actually have a rough surface finish allowing less than 5% of the contact’s surface to actually make contact and transfer vital energy to your electronic components be it AC Power, Audio or Video signals. In addition, these rough contacts cause micro-arcing to take place generating noise which is then transferred and amplified in your system along with the complex, multi-frequency Audio and Video signals resulting in a dramatic loss in resolution, low-level information retrieval and a less natural 2-dimensional presentation. It does not have to be this way!” Also, this is from Mapleshade’s website regarding their Silclear contact enhancer, circa 20 years ago, “Technically, the SilClear engineering objective is simple: to create the thinnest possible continuous layer of silver between the two mating surfaces of any electrical connection. The test results are unequivocal: SilClear improves sound. The reasons are not so obvious. We hypothesize two mechanisms. One is the beneficial effect of a near-monomolecular layer of silver in reducing skin effect (i.e., the velocity disparity between signal propagation on the surface and in the interior of a conductor). Second is eliminating the distorting diode effects (i.e., unequal resistance to the + and - halves of a music waveform) of the inevitable oxide films on any conductor surface.” |
Another problem contact enhancers such as The Product solves is the dissimilar metals phenomenon. One reason why people often say they can find no evidence of such and such on the web is because they don’t know how to search properly or thoroughly. 😬 Who knows, a competent pseudo skeptic might not even search at all. He’ll just say he did. 🙄 |
Hi maplegrovemusic. Actually, Caig uses the term arcing, not micro arcing anywhere I can find on their site. I certainly could be mistaken. I don’t think it was debated that the maker of TC coined the term. Regardless, I can’t find an explanation anywhere on the web of what the heck micro arcing is as it pertains to audio. If any fellow member can help me out I would appreciate it. The reason I have repeatedly asked Mr. Mrock what it is, is because he claimed that his product will solve the problem of micro arcing. He also states that he spent all his spare time for the last 15 years studying this ’micro arcing’. I’m extremely curious how one ’studies’ this phenomenon when there seems to be no information about it anywhere. I am also at a loss as to why he refuses to explain what it is since he’s spent a decade and a half learning about it. |
Micro arching is not a term coined from the maker of this contact enhancer . I seen it in a Caig advertisement . I believe goergehifi linked Caig on a forum post and it can be seen there . Cant seem to find it now after 10 minutes of looking . Anyhow Caig uses the term in its ad. Will keep looking to ad a link . |
grannying ... Thanks for the positive encouragement ... its much appreciated., With that said, I don't believe "innocent" describes their actions ... however, "ignorant" is much closer to the truth. I have never discouraged honest and respectful descent on these pages, but out and out insults, threats and slander is where the line must be drawn. As you know grannying ... TC is a marvelous product. How anyone can sit back, spew insults, make demands and threats without experiencing what we know to be a trans-formative product is beyond me. I have some suspicions as to the causes however. Among them are ... 1) Jealousy. 2) Envy. 3) Evil intent. 4) A missing chromosome. 5) Lack of a social filter caused by some sort of autism such Asperger's 6) Some sort of a chemical imbalance causing bipolar-ism. 7) At the very least, a totally warped, negative sense of humor. Frank PS: I've recommended this CD before, but as the users of TC have found out, their digital playback has been transformed. I played this last night and it was simply amazing: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Conte-Candoli-All-Stars-LITTLE-BAND-BIG-JAZZ-Crown-Records-CD-FSR-1629/1130... |
Well, we have to remember these folks have not even tried the product, have only been on Agon for less than 1.5 years and really are young and not experienced in all things home audio. They just don’t know and are mere babes in audio experiences beyond what is normative and old news. They are rather funny however in their innocent and ignorant ways. |
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sbayne Good point. Maybe my system will sound worse as the solution continues to dry. Based on what I’ve read, graphene oxide is used in the manufacture of many products including graphene itself, batteries, and solar cells, for example. Total Contact is some type of graphene solution. I highly doubt its pure graphene and from what I can tell they don’t claim it is. >>>>Graphene is the super conductor, not Graphene oxide. Graphene oxide is a super non-conductor. If something looks too good to be true it’s probably not true. I’m not sure I’d call TC a Graphene solution, either. And it’s obviously not pure Graphene since Graphene is a solid. Whatever it is, it acts as a super conductor. But perhaps @teo_audio would be interested in the Graphene oxide suspension for his liquid cables, who knows? Of course, it’s not my intention to rain 💦 on your parade. For the record I’m not convinced putting water solutions on electrical contacts is a recommended practice. 🙄 |
Good point. Maybe my system will sound worse as the solution continues to dry. Based on what I've read, graphene oxide is used in the manufacture of many products including graphene itself, batteries, and solar cells, for example. Total Contact is some type of graphene solution. I highly doubt its pure graphene and from what I can tell they don't claim it is. |
That’s interesting but in the application we’re talking about, I.e, electrical contacts for audio, the water disappears, i.e., dries. Then you’re left with only the Graphene oxide, you know, the non-conductive stuff. It’s the suspension of Graphene in water that’s conductive. Am I missing something? 🙄 |
geoffkait - Based on what I've read, as you indicated, graphene oxide is not conductive in and of itself. However, it can be made conductive with distilled water which is much cheaper than pure graphene. Here are excerpts from what I have read: GRAPHENE OXIDE NANOFLUIDS CHARACTERIZATION AND ELECTRICAL CONDUCTIVITY K. SAKTIYARAMANA*, G. AZADEH, M. T. HAJIBEIGY School of Engineering, Taylor’s University, Taylor's Lakeside Campus, No. 1 Jalan Taylor's, 47500, Subang Jaya, Selangor DE, Malaysia *Corresponding Author: Saktiya.karu@gmail.com Abstract Recently Graphene Oxide (GO) Nanofluids has become one of the emerging topics discussed in engineering applications due to its favourable characteristics in thermal and electrical conductivity. The substance is a combination of nano-size particles of graphene oxide dispersed in a base fluid, commonly distilled water. ..... In terms of electrical conductivity enhancement it was shown that samples with 0.03% volume fraction of graphene oxide had the highest electrical conductivity with a value of 161.44 μS/cm. The ability of the colloidal suspension to conduct electricity is basically due to the formation of dielectric layer and the presence of surface charges around the nanoparticles. In terms of electrical conductivity enhancement of the base fluid, sample with volume faction of 0.03% produces an enhancement value of 106%. The samples did not show any significant enhancement when the temperature is manipulated. |
Resolution 1, you have described my own path to a tee--same additions, including SR fuses, resulting in no desire to change components for years. Andynotadam, you won't regret taking down your system to connect it all back together using TC. Everyone should do this. It's that good. I held back on trying TC--sure glad I have it in now. |
I'm really interested in trying this product, although I'm not looking forward to tearing an already really great sounding system apart to do it. I find the positive claims to be credible, as I do the few neutral responses from those who have actually tried the product but have found it not to have helped in their application. I do regret the fact that the product can't be returned for a refund as can cables and fuses, but I do get why. Its cost amounts to less than 1% of the cost of my system. If it doesn't work, it's a lesson learned and it is easily reversible.... |
@fleschler- Oh, yeah Fleschler. Ya got me. My brilliant ruse of pretending to be an angry Canadian has been found out. And here I was thinking my plan was foolproof. See, I secretly joined Audiogon under that name years ago and then posted 18 other times in various threads to throw you all off track in anticipation of this very moment when I spring my plan into action. If it wasn’t for your astonishing deductive reasoning I would have gotten away with it. I guess you’re just too smart for me....Why don’t you think a little before you accuse me of anything. |
For what it is worth, I have never been involved in any forum until this one. I am really glad that I could learn about the product from actual users. I purchased the product at my own risk. The bottom line is that TC has greatly enhanced the enjoyment in my music listening. I have also purchased more new music than ever before. This is why I enjoy my Hi-Fi. Two years ago I was on track to upgrade my CD player but through the combination of upgrading with quality power chords, vibration control, interconnects and power conditioners, I was astounded to hear how good my computer/dac office system and existing CD player sounded. Add to that the eventual application of TC to both office and main system it is mind boggling the quality I am getting from my systems existing digital sources. Suffice it to say, I can now save up to get a proper music server and dac for my main system. TC was the tipping point in that decision since it got rid of a significant amount of the digital glare/hardness. Two years ago I was still was listening to vinyl 80% of the time. I will be applying TC to my existing fuses next and report what I hear. Rc |
OMG, I have read almost all this « thread » and I must say that I do not like at all the proceeds involved to promote this « fantastic tweak ». It is absolutely obvious that OP has an agenda, and I would also go as far as saying that he certainly receives percentages of sales … More on this later … No wonder why so many people still believe in astrology … I applause the perspicacity of thecarpathian. Amazing how simple and legitimate questions to OP and business owner weren’t answered, and worst, eluded. Oregonpapa, for me, you look like the worst kind of seller: the one that only manipulates informations toward your selling and profit goals and absolutely not care about the customer’s needs. How many posts do you have in this thread? How much time have you spend in this mission? Despite this gigantic effort and presence, you failed to answer simple and legitimate questions about this product. You said that you spend decades as a seller in real estate. I would have never asked for your services because it is easy to suppose that you have certainly sold houses like you now sell the « Fantastic Tweak ». When a business uses the kind of marketing strategies you showed, it tells a lot about the values and principles of the so called business and/or business owner. Even though Total Contact would deliver some good, I have to say that I would never encourage your business. In this case, the end does not justify the means, like for example, buying stolen products. Maybe I am picky but it has to show some ethic from the start. The reason why I will also never buy Linn products ( omg, what other can of worms am I opening here!?! « A Feel Alright! Yeah A Feel Alright!» - Fun house - The Stooges ). I hate to feel being manipulated and thus incorrectly guided by intellectually dishonest sellers striving only for theirs interests. The more pressure they put, the quickest I run away. I consider the product Total Contact OVERPRICED. Unfortunately, people interested here missed an excellent opportunity to negotiate a better price before its appearance on the market. Amazing how many people are willing to bet 300$ under anecdotal, biased and interested advices, under the complete absence of technical or legitimate informations. As thecarphetian cleverly pointed out, considering the « fantastic » versatility of this « fantastic » new product, why restricting yourself to the small and moribond market of hi-end audio? ( Maybe because it is the place where we find the biggest ratio of believers willing to gamble big money in hopes … ) Have you ever thought about offering your product in Sex shops? With Total Contact, every men will gratify his partner with a complete ( TOTAL ) inner contact, no matter the size of your connector! Read the hyperbolic testimonials of oregonpapa one of our beta testers!!! One satisfied man! Unmistakably full of it. I CALL DISHONESTY IN THE MEANS TO SELL YOUR PRODUCT perfectpathtech, selling a product under false premises is fraud, do you know that? ( At least in Canada … I suppose that similar laws exist in USA … ) So, explain micro arching ( or arcing or aching or whatsoever… ), explain how it accomplishes what is claimed. You don’t have to disclose your recipe, only to explain the basic scientific principles or the mechanic involved; but with convincing details please … Do you still maintain that eliminating micro-whatsoever is the way your product delivers the claimed upgrades in SQ ( or SNR )? Because if you are not still sure, it is time to tell us or to change your mind! Or you can say that oregonpapa did not quote you well. That brings another question: How did you conclude that micro-whatsoever was the culprit and your product the solution? ( Please avoid the kind of answers like: Because I know, and because I tried it and it worked! ) Explain why your special bound makes your product outstanding compared to actual and previous competition. If you can’t explain, be honest, and tell us that you did not know what you were doing but kept trying anything on everything and with numerous trials and errors you were finally graced to stumble on something that showed results … or came in the perfect sales rep !!! If you lived in Canada, I would file a complaint against you. Hey! Relax! Total Contact works! Why are you so hateful? Hey! Relax! This stolen TV set is brand new and works flawlessly! Tell me more about micro-whatsoever Mr. perfectpathtech please … ( please, do not answer that deeperthought’s technicals and scientific readings say it all … Your implementation differs … ) DISCLAIMER: I WILL NOT ANSWER ANY QUESTION BEFORE « OREGONPAPA » AND « PERFECTPATHTECH » ANSWERED IN A SATISFYING MANNER MY QUESTIONS! Bonus questions for you guys: To perfectpathtech: Did you give commissions to oregonpapa for helping you selling or selling your product? Who else got commissions? Not answering these questions is not honest. How many 1,5 mL have you used for pasting your thousand connections? Would you encourage me to paste my CD player remote control external casing with your product? If yes. Why? ( Please do not answer because it needs LOTS of 1,5 mL … ) To Oregonpapa: Did you receive commissions from perfectpathtech for selling or helping him to sell and or promote his product? It would be dishonest to hide this information after starting such a thread … ( don’t forget the other questions … ) |
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Exactly, Steve ... Caution, water can kill. Its possible to die from a water overdose. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/strange-but-true-drinking-too-much-water-can-kill/ Frank |
I’m not afraid of using graphene even if the concentration were 100% as instructed for use as a contact enhancer. We know that it is not a significant amount weightwise and that the binder make up the majority of the product. Using the supplied gloves and the brush, you should not get contaminated by the TC. If you do, wash thoroughly with 91% alcohol. Because it is locked in a binder, there isn’t aerosol exposure (stopping that possible chain of thought from above). Don’t put it in your food or drink. Don’t allow pets or children around it (or around anything in your household that is a danger) TaDa! No danger of death from using TC as instructed. |
Moderator ... Thank you for stepping in. Its much appreciated. Its the same violators every time. How about just deleting their inane attacking posts and let the "normal" conversations proceed? Even some of the off topic stuff is truly interesting. I believe that if this thread is deleted, the bad actors will just find another thread to play their games in. Thanks ... Frank |
Shadorne sez ... Since this entire thread is all a bunch of nonsense claims about TC paste, more nonsense really doesn’t add or subtract anything (except maybe you’re angry because it subtracts from your sales and profits) Angry? Nope, not me. The nonsense is being spewed by you, Shadorne, not me. You haven't tried the product and have no idea of the benefits, and yet, you continue to call it nonsense. That, junior, is nonsense. Its not MY sales involved here, Shadorne ... I'm just an enthusiast who uses the product and wants others to benefit as I have. Now then, how about telling us what problems you have with profits? Does your employer make profits? If not, how does he/she keep the doors open? If not for profits, you wouldn't have a job. Angry? Nope ... it was intended to be a teaching moment for you ... but then, perhaps your prejudices and preconceived notions won't allow you to be open minded enough to be educated in the ways of outside sales. Well, I tried. Frank |
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Shadorne sez .,.,,. "Salesmen on commission can be rather pushy to the point of being really obnoxious, especially when the profit margins are huge." I’d venture to say that you wouldn’t make it one week in the sales field, Shadorne. As soon as you’d find out that you have to consistently approach perfect strangers, pique their interest, make an appointment for the evening in order to sit down with the husband and wife, then give a convincing presentation while overcoming all objections, then hand them the agreement and a pen and ask them to sign your contract, often well past midnight ... that’s when you would be reduced to a puddle of tears. In addition to that, Shadorne, as an independent contractor, you’d have to give up all of the security you have right now. Think about it ... you’d be paying both sides of your Social Security payments ... that’s 15% of your gross income before taxes. No paid vacations. No paid health care. No employer shared stock plan. You wouldn’t dare. What you would do, would be to sit back, consider the successful salespeople in the firm "lucky," and then lob pot-shots at them while whispering to others of your ilk, that the successful ones must be cheating in some way. And here you are calling salespeople "obnoxious." You haven’t a clue of what you’re talking about. And by the way, Shadorne, what do you find so attractive about this thread? You have no interest in buying or even trying the product at hand, and yet you continue spewing your nonsense here. I’ve asked you several times before ... what is your intent here Shadorne? Frank |
cd318 Audio is unfortunately not like motoring or computing where the numbers are almost everything. Hence the unpleasant infestatation and proliferation of charlatans and snake oil peddlers. Geoffkait “Yeah, right. It’s the other side that uses ad hominem arguments. Are listening to yourself? Go infest some other thread.” To which cd318 replied, Well, so much for open debate! I wonder what’s bugging mr kait? Business not going well? No need to be obnoxious geoff, never good for pr or profits. >>>>Ain’t nothin’ wrong with open debate. Why, are we having one? And what’s with all the ad hominem attacks? If you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen, dillweed. |
@geoffkait <cd318 @amg56 I wouldn't get too upset about these ad hominem arguments. These are usually the last resort of desperate individuals who have little interest in sharing the truth, but maximum interest in peddling their wares under pretences. Audio is unfortunately not like motoring or computing where the numbers are almost everything. Hence the unpleasant infestatation and proliferation of charlatans and snake oil peddlers. >>>>>Yeah, right. It’s the other side that uses ad hominem arguments. Are listening to yourself? Go infest some other thread.> Well, so much for open debate! I wonder what's bugging mr kait? Business not going well? No need to be obnoxious geoff, never good for pr or profits. |
@wolf_garcia Forgot to add: I personally have really liked that Tim Mrock has been on the thread, commenting on how to use the product, etc. I would be fine with the manufacturers being on all the threads, if they are properly identified. This level of guidance and involvement of any product is valuable. I am quite capable of filtering out what I perceive as hype by a manufacturer. |
@wolf_garcia I appreciate your pointing out the potential carcinogenic risk of using TC and became a lot more careful in using it and cleaning up afterwards. IMHO, Tim should provide better warnings and "methods" to decrease exposure. That said, this is an amazing product. It is apparent from the first application and gets better with time (up to eight weeks?). The most concrete data I can give on how much better it is? I now regularly spend 2-3 hours a night in my listening chair and have to force myself to turn off the system, in the wee hours, so that I can sleep enough to keep my job. It was not that way before TC. |
HI perfectpathtech- Still patiently waiting for your answers to my questions about your product claims. Let's just forget the why is there no guarantee question as that is a policy choice and not a claim. I'll ask basically the same questions here to save you time of going back to the other ones. It is claimed your product eliminates micro arcing. What exactly is micro arcing as it pertains to an audio signal? You claim in your ad that your product is the world's first hybrid contact enhancer. Can you please explain (without giving away any proprietary secrets) what makes it so? You claim in your ad that your product will never degrade. Ever. Please explain how you came to that conclusion. What sets your 'graphene' contact enhancer apart from the less expensive 'graphene' contact enhancers in the market today? Thank you in advance |
t_ramey Are business owners of audio products allowed to use a thread started by a customer ...That the posts you question have been allowed by the moderators should be sufficient information to answer your question, no? |

