Thanks resolution1 I'm sure I will. I have the sequence planned out, every system power and speaker connection first, low level next, and will progress to the insides of the electronics like some have done.
It will be interesting to see if one order is enough, but I see it keeping me busy on the week of the 4th I have off work.
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Stray_cat,
If you have not yet started using the TC I would start having fun with that, since in my experience it is the best value in tweaks that I have come across in my experience. It can be used on interconnects, power chords and other places that others have mentioned in prior posts.
Doing that should bring you a great deal of satisfaction in the way your music is played your existing system.
Have fun,
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Stray_cat,
In my main system it has made my digital front end more organic and dynamic top to bottom.
Rc
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I've found this thread late so it took some work to go through. Thanks OP and others who shared "valid" experiences.
Hope you guys trying out the new item get permission *soon" to disclose more. You are killing me with suspense lol.
Are you allowed to give "clues" of what it is or how it does what it does? Inquiring minds want to know! |
Frank,
I agree, that with the new item, it took the the better part of a day for it really begin to do what it does in conjunction with the CD player. This is the kind of thing that makes this hobby fun.
rc
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tlong1958 ...
Welcome back to the train wreck. :-)
Believe me, even when very well medicated Robert still dances between the speakers. Oh wait .... could it be the medication that's doing it?
With David Pritchard's experience with the fuses, I'm beginning to suspect that with so many items pasted with TC, it has an effect on the break-in time. I also have tons of things pasted with TC, some of which would seem ridiculous to most of you, but very, in fact, VERY effective.
I noticed when initially using the new "accessory," there was an immediate degradation to the overall sound. It took the better part of a day just to start coming around. More on this later when Tim releases the product. I'll do a review then. Its really exciting as others have said here.
Frank |
Kinda worried about that Robert guy, the one that needs to chained down. Needs some Anti anxiety meds maybe. Not everyone can handle the improvement TC and the other stuff provide.
Sorry. I know I said I’d stay away from this thread, but it’s like a train wreck, I can’t not look at it.
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David,
Thank you for the reply.
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Who knows, maybe directionality played a role, or which version. I’d have to be there.
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I applied Total Contact to where the Synergistic Research Blue fuse makes contact with the fuse holder. I removed the Total Contact from the fuse and fuse holder after 7 days of listening. I preferred the sound of the untreated Blue fuse.
My entire system has been treated with Total Contact and this is the first location I did not experience a positive change. So far I have treated the entire Circuit Breaker box, wall outlet connections, power cords, interconnects, connections and components inside the SACD player and amplifier.
I have found after treating over 100 connections or components in my system that it took longer for the sound to improve - stabilize with the last few parts I treated. I did not paste my entire system in one outing but did one area at a time and then waited a month or more before proceeding to the next step.
I think Total Contact is a great product and I am glad I have treated my systems with it.
David Pritchard
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The real question is where did he put it. |
David,
How long did you leave the TC on the blue fuses?
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Odd. Pasting the ends of the SR Blue fuses with TC gave me a further improvement in overall clarity.
Frank |
Okay, thanks for the information. I will remove the six month TC from my SR Blue fuses and see if the sound becomes fuller and richer. If no change, I will leave the TC off. If the system sounds less good, I will reapply the TC. |
Does not compute. No offense.
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The Synergistic Research Blue fuse has it's own formula of graphene applied to the fuse body. Adding Total Contact to the ends of the Blue fuse did not further improve the sound in my system.
Total Contact has improved my system's sound after being applied in multiple other areas of the system.
David Pritchard
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The SR Blue fuse on my dac was the only thing I didn’t like the TC on. Made everything too bright and thin for my tastes. |
How did SR treat its Blue fuses so that they don't require TC? Thanks |
I like the Synergistic Research Blue fuses as treated by the factory without additional Total Contact being applied. I did try them both ways.
David Pritchard
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I mean "some" of the assorted tweaks. Not TC. The new product will perform at a much higher level for the $ as compared to some of the other tweaks. TC and the new product work together. |
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I've noticed lately that tweeks like the sonic tonic 2 from tweek geek is not a good additive to the sound like it was before the TC. |
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Absolete TC? I think you mean all other types of toppers, mats, racks, footers and assorted tweaks? Or do you? |
I have the new product in my system in various locations. This new product will obsolete some of the tweaks discussed above. |
Thank you Frank, I hope to join you in your listening room next week. On another post about speakers under $10K, I strongly urged the poster to consider used speakers, in particular, Legacy Focus and Signature IIIs. When available, they are excellent speakers the latter especially easy to drive, both with large room filling sound at 15% to 25% the price of $10K new speakers. |
Source, Setup, Room; Pay attention to these. You will find that all these “tweaks” just tweak your wallet.
Not looking forward to another 2000+ posts arguing about a tweak that will not change audio forever.
Let’s see if we can contain the arguments and let the Sales do the talking. 66 sales of tc.
Source-check! Setup-check! Room-check! tweaked my wallet-double check! lol (but I've read worth every penny, that's what matters) Sale #67-check! Can't wait to try it. |
The synergy between the TC and this “thing” is similar to the SQ gains obtained when I installed and broke in the the AU24 SX Audience interconnect, in my main system, about a year and a half ago. I am so glad that it was in place before I applied TC and this “thing” because they together have gradually created a more powerful musical experience that I did not think possible in my system.
Enjoying the music,
rc
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Not sure of the pricing or of special offers, but this product appears more likely to come with a satisfaction/return guarantee--only speculating--not sure if its properties remain constant or deplete over time--no idea how it works, just that it does.
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That would be nice, a25105!! |
It would be nice if Tim offers a discount to current TC users on this new product.
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I think the new product is going to be new asbestos vibration control device. :) |
Well I sure hope this new footer, mat, topper or disc is not crazy expensive. I do tire of the outrageous pricing we see in high end audio. I am as open minded as they come in terms of new technology in audio, but I also am reasoned and reasonable. The pricing of tweaks and all things HEA is just getting too high. What is too high? Well, it should be affordable. What is affordable? I guess each individual will decide that for themselves. |
Robert is coming over tonight. He was here last Friday night and couldn't keep his feet still. Toe bone connected to the ankle bone. Ankle bone connected to the knee bone. Knee bone connected to the .... Damn, sit still will ya?
Based upon the improvement over the past day or so, I'll have to chain Robert down tonight. This new "accessory" has me wondering once again... how much more information is hiding in those LP grooves and digital bytes?
Frank |
“The system remains the same. The song remains the same, too”
The connection between the listener and song (music), however... |
jafreeman
This new thing may not be a component, but it's like putting in a new component. The SR Blues and the TC are also like adding new components. The system remains the same---the signal passing through it has changed dramatically.
>>>>>The system remains the same. The song remains the same, too.
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This new thing may not be a component, but it's like putting in a new component. The SR Blues and the TC are also like adding new components. The system remains the same---the signal passing through it has changed dramatically.
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tommylion
jafreeman,
Wait until you get two weeks on it 😉
>>>>>Wow! Whoa! What?! It’s just possible you guys have accidentally uncovered a new law of physics - Well, or accidentally stumbled onto something very hush hush. Something that’s been buried for centuries in obscurity. A big cover-up.
What is it? That for nanometer tweaks the break in periods are always even numbered weeks, two, four, eight. And that turns out to be yup, you guessed it! Powers of 2. 2 to the power of 1 is 2, 2 to the power of 2 is 4, 2 to the power of 3 is 8. Voila! But that translates to even numbered days - 14, 28, and 56. All divisible by the number 7. A prime number. Also the number of the devil. The sum of the numbers 14, 28 and 56 is also divisible by 7. Whoa! 8 of course is a Fibonacci number and is the number of letters in the word Graphene. Tim Mrock also has eight letters. Is he the devil? So does Audiogon. Coincidence?
Has anyone noticed another peak at week 16? It should be there. Keep listening.
Two, four, six, eight, who do we appreciate?! |
Yes, at least here on the east coast. |
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I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you...
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Enough already, what is it??? |
jafreeman,
Wait until you get two weeks on it 😉
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fleschler ...
When you return from your east coast visit, I'll loan you enough of the new product so that you can get a real handle on what it does in your own system. I predict that you won't want to return them. But ... you'll have to come up to my place to pick them up ... while at the same time, listen to what the Signature III's have evolved into.
Frank |
fazee ...
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I have no experience with DACs. Maybe Tim could chime in here.
I discovered something really profound with the new ... oh what to call it? Tweak isn't right. As Geoff pointed out ... "component" isn't correct either. Okay, its between a tweak and a component. I dub thee an "accessory."
I discovered something profound to try with Tim Mrock's new "accessory." I'll share the info when the product is officially released ... and that should be any day now. :-)
Frank |
Frank, Tommylion, myself, and now Resolution1 (Rc)? Like most of this group, I didn't even know I was chosen to try this thing--it just appeared in the mail---call for instructions. I was given the basic idea of its use and where---then, wait for something to happen---expect something even better than TC, as I recall. Considering what TC has done for my system, that is a tall claim, even from its creator. I could not even imagine how this thing could work, so I was not expecting much--then I sat there in disbelief as the sonic improvements emerged over several hours. No--must be the TC at eight weeks--has to be, but the changes came on too fast for that. I cannot explain this thing, but, as the others have said, "I like it."
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Hi Geoff, I’ve only done numbers 6 through 9 tweaks, sort of. I have SR blue fuses, SR HFT system (32 units), a Townsend Pneumatic Sink under my VPI TNT VI and Stillpoints (everywhere). These are the tweaks that I’ve chosen to always keep after testing alternatives over the years. I’m so glad that OP has introduced me to SR products (although I tried some that he hasn’t tried, didn’t work out anyway).
It my cynical (of tweaks) and difficult to please friend Robert likes the tweak in Frank’s system (he told me so), then it is a keeper for those who can use it. He loved the sound of Frank's system.
Do to my extensive use of Stillpoints, the new tweak maybe incompatible with my system. Cest la vie. |
Frank, tommylion,
This new deal is for real. I am am finding a huge expansion of the soundstage, and a much greater instrumental definition and tunefulness.
I did not think this level of improvement was possible with my old CD player
The best part is that I had no idea what to expect!
Rc |
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I’m afraid you’ll have to ask Mel Brooks. It’s from Blazing Saddles. 🔥
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Nice @geoffkait
I would like to use that quote here and there. It captures the mental state all true innovators aspire to.
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